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Old 11-29-2007, 07:17 PM
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Default Re: HU vs unknown

i know flop peel is normal, on turn lets say there are 3 10's, 3 A's and 4 5's. Probably not all outs, i'd say an avg of about 6 outs are good. On turn i am getting 5:1 and i think i have the implied odds tho if i hit the river. Ace high can also be good here as well.

when i get to river, reraise for value?
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Old 11-29-2007, 07:25 PM
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I had just written some crap until I saw it was HU. You gotta have some kind of read. Is he 3-betting lightly? Value betting much? Folding much or calling down? What's your image?
What I'm trying to say is that these HU matches depends soooo much on the flow of the game and how you perceive eachother. Often it's difficult for outsiders to say anything interesting.

But as a general rule I 2-time his ass in this spot. You'll get looked up by lots of pp's and 9x. Against some opponents I can fold to a 3-bet but I'd also call against some.
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Old 11-29-2007, 07:27 PM
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fwiw I think the two peels are standard against almost all opponents.

EDIT: And you can't reraise river. You can raise, though.
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Old 11-29-2007, 07:32 PM
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I think the peels are standard unless you've got some sort of sick read on the guy.

I agree that 5's arent is range evre unless its 55, but he did just fire at every street. You'd have to PS it. River raise depends a lot on any sort of read, is he willing to 3barrel here with KQ? What is he gogn to call a river raise with? TT-KK? 9x? 66-88? Most players know that the A hit most of your range
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Old 11-29-2007, 07:35 PM
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I think the peels are standard unless you've got some sort of sick read on the guy.

I agree that 5's arent is range evre unless its 55, but he did just fire at every street. You'd have to PS it. River raise depends a lot on any sort of read, is he willing to 3barrel here with KQ? What is he gogn to call a river raise with? TT-KK? 9x? 66-88? Most players know that the A hit most of your range

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again, absolutely no reads which makes this hand appliable to everyone cuz its a general spot lots run in to.
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Old 11-29-2007, 07:39 PM
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Against a total unknown I'll call a blank river. I think I raise river and probably call a 3-bet in this situation (expecting to lose - I just wanna see his hand + many people make retarted river raises). I wanna show down either way so I can get some information. That's what HU is about most of the way.
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Old 11-29-2007, 07:44 PM
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People saying that he knows that ur range is weighted towards A-high: 1) For this reason the ace is a perfect bluff card and our opponent probably knows that and calls with more than you think. 2) Hero could easily have 3x or 4x on the river, hence villains valuebet in spite of the scary ace.
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Old 11-29-2007, 07:42 PM
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You need to raise the river for value and i dont think you can fold to a 3 bet. HU is an information saturated environment and you need to have an idea about how he is playing so you can make better decissions later in the match. Calldown lighter in the start of a huhu match so you can adjust a lot more to how your opponent is playing. He could be valuebetting AX, 9x, 4x, pocketpair and bluff the scarecard with a FD. I think i would cap for value PF and the posibility to bet/3 bet a good flop.
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Old 11-29-2007, 07:45 PM
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yea he doesnt even have enough to make a full 3 bet, so consense reraise river for value. And call if it was a blank?
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Old 11-29-2007, 07:48 PM
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yea he doesnt even have enough to make a full 3 bet, so consense reraise river for value. And call if it was a blank?

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This make it an even clearer raise I think. And yeah, call that river. I expect you to be good a reasonable amount of the time + you get very valuable information.
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