***Official*** CNN/YouTube GOP debate

Case Closed · #1 11-29-2007, 06:10 PM

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It would be great if it wouldn't be a big deal here, but in today's USA, it would be.

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And in tomorrow's USA, it will continue. Unless of course we decide to stop this silliness today.

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The problem is that the military isnt a place for social experimentation. Maybe there will be a point in the future where homosexuality is accepted to a degree that it wont be much of a factor in the military. And before you guys start with the comparison to racial things, sexuality brings a whole other factor the equation that race doesnt.

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In the past the military has been on the fore front of integration. I guess once you know that a fellow country man is willing to fight and die for you all the little things like skin tone, religious background and other crap seem to fall into place.

vulturesrow · #2 11-29-2007, 06:13 PM

So should we create whole units of personnel that are only homosexuals? Is that the integration you are talking about?

DING-DONG YO · #3 11-29-2007, 06:15 PM

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So should we create whole units of personnel that are only homosexuals? Is that the integration you are talking about?

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My God, that would be awesome.

Case Closed · #4 11-29-2007, 06:22 PM

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So should we create whole units of personnel that are only homosexuals? Is that the integration you are talking about?

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They should just remove don't ask don't tell. If someone joins up and they show up to a military event with a male partner or they talk about having relations with another man just get used to it.

vulturesrow · #5 11-29-2007, 06:26 PM

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So should we create whole units of personnel that are only homosexuals? Is that the integration you are talking about?

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They should just remove don't ask don't tell. If someone joins up and they show up to a military event with a male partner or they talk about having relations with another man just get used to it.

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You honestly think its just that simple?

Case Closed · #6 11-29-2007, 06:31 PM

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So should we create whole units of personnel that are only homosexuals? Is that the integration you are talking about?

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They should just remove don't ask don't tell. If someone joins up and they show up to a military event with a male partner or they talk about having relations with another man just get used to it.

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You honestly think its just that simple?

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No, the gays who enter the military will be harassed and it will be a big issue and people will throw a hissy fit about everything. The military will be pissed about it and so will a lot of other people. A lot of gay people who are open will be take serious harassment and it won't be easy for anyone.

BluffTHIS! · #7 11-29-2007, 06:38 PM

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So should we create whole units of personnel that are only homosexuals? Is that the integration you are talking about?

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They should just remove don't ask don't tell. If someone joins up and they show up to a military event with a male partner or they talk about having relations with another man just get used to it.

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You honestly think its just that simple?

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No, the gays who enter the military will be harassed and it will be a big issue and people will throw a hissy fit about everything. The military will be pissed about it and so will a lot of other people. A lot of gay people who are open will be take serious harassment and it won't be easy for anyone.

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CC,

You ever been in the military? If you have you know that for singles who live on base, you usually have a roommate. Naturally they now assign you one of your same sex. So is the military just supposed to say tough [censored] to the joe who gets assigned a gay roomie of the same sex but violently objects to same? Or should they also assign housing by sexual preference, in which case one gay man might object to being assigned with a certain other, when there really aren't any other available choices. And what of family housing? An unmarried gay guy supposed to get a house instead of a barracks billet with his significant other when same isn't offered (assuming still the case) to unmarried straights?

This is a lot more complicated that you are making it out to be even aside from other problems.

mjkidd · #8 11-29-2007, 06:42 PM

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So should we create whole units of personnel that are only homosexuals? Is that the integration you are talking about?

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They should just remove don't ask don't tell. If someone joins up and they show up to a military event with a male partner or they talk about having relations with another man just get used to it.

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You honestly think its just that simple?

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No, the gays who enter the military will be harassed and it will be a big issue and people will throw a hissy fit about everything. The military will be pissed about it and so will a lot of other people. A lot of gay people who are open will be take serious harassment and it won't be easy for anyone.

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CC,

You ever been in the military? If you have you know that for singles who live on base, you usually have a roommate. Naturally they now assign you one of your same sex. So is the military just supposed to say tough [censored] to the joe who gets assigned a gay roomie of the same sex but violently objects to same? Or should they also assign housing by sexual preference, in which case one gay man might object to being assigned with a certain other, when there really aren't any other available choices. And what of family housing? An unmarried gay guy supposed to get a house instead of a barracks billet with his significant other when same isn't offered (assuming still the case) to unmarried straights?

This is a lot more complicated that you are making it out to be even aside from other problems.

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How is it any more complicated than if you substitute "black" for "gay" and 1950 for present day?

TomCollins · #9 11-29-2007, 06:43 PM

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So should we create whole units of personnel that are only homosexuals? Is that the integration you are talking about?

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They should just remove don't ask don't tell. If someone joins up and they show up to a military event with a male partner or they talk about having relations with another man just get used to it.

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You honestly think its just that simple?

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No, the gays who enter the military will be harassed and it will be a big issue and people will throw a hissy fit about everything. The military will be pissed about it and so will a lot of other people. A lot of gay people who are open will be take serious harassment and it won't be easy for anyone.

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CC,

You ever been in the military? If you have you know that for singles who live on base, you usually have a roommate. Naturally they now assign you one of your same sex. So is the military just supposed to say tough [censored] to the joe who gets assigned a gay roomie of the same sex but violently objects to same? Or should they also assign housing by sexual preference, in which case one gay man might object to being assigned with a certain other, when there really aren't any other available choices. And what of family housing? An unmarried gay guy supposed to get a house instead of a barracks billet with his significant other when same isn't offered (assuming still the case) to unmarried straights?

This is a lot more complicated that you are making it out to be even aside from other problems.

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Replace gay with black, do you think the same holds true?

Case Closed · #10 11-29-2007, 06:43 PM

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So should we create whole units of personnel that are only homosexuals? Is that the integration you are talking about?

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They should just remove don't ask don't tell. If someone joins up and they show up to a military event with a male partner or they talk about having relations with another man just get used to it.

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You honestly think its just that simple?

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No, the gays who enter the military will be harassed and it will be a big issue and people will throw a hissy fit about everything. The military will be pissed about it and so will a lot of other people. A lot of gay people who are open will be take serious harassment and it won't be easy for anyone.

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CC,

You ever been in the military? If you have you know that for singles who live on base, you usually have a roommate. Naturally they now assign you one of your same sex. So is the military just supposed to say tough [censored] to the joe who gets assigned a gay roomie of the same sex but violently objects to same? Or should they also assign housing by sexual preference, in which case one gay man might object to being assigned with a certain other, when there really aren't any other available choices. And what of family housing? An unmarried gay guy supposed to get a house instead of a barracks billet with his significant other when same isn't offered (assuming still the case) to unmarried straights?

This is a lot more complicated that you are making it out to be even aside from other problems.

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I want to make this clear, it will be very complicated and by no means will this issue be easily resolved by the military. Although don't think that's a good enough reason to deny gays the ability to openly serve in the army.