Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > PL/NL Texas Hold'em > Full Ring
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-29-2007, 08:16 AM
JSampras1 JSampras1 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 152
Default Re: Stars $50 - limp/reraise with AA

I dunno, i have been limp/reraising a lot because for some reason even though it's obvious i have AA (or maybe KK), if i limp reraise to about $8 at $50 nl i get called very often by i would assume AK, because they fold when the flop is low and i bet.

I'm obviously not check/folding so i had to bet. The reason i didn't open push is I figured if one of them was feel extra aggressive (dumb?) maybe they might think they could fold me if they pushed in with AK or 33 or something.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-29-2007, 12:50 PM
ship_it_trebek ship_it_trebek is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: ill take eZ stax for 100
Posts: 848
Default Re: Stars $50 - limp/reraise with AA

Its pretty bad if you are only limp reraising AA/KK. Even the dumbest opponent can determine your range. It's not bad in general to limp-rr but you have to do it with weaker hands sometimes if you don't want to alert everyone at the table what you are holding.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-29-2007, 02:13 PM
CalledDownLight CalledDownLight is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: burning money in non-ring games
Posts: 4,541
Default Re: Stars $50 - limp/reraise with AA

This is played perfectly once you limp preflop.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-29-2007, 02:22 PM
Jeff76 Jeff76 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,268
Default Re: Stars $50 - limp/reraise with AA

[ QUOTE ]
Its pretty bad if you are only limp reraising AA/KK. Even the dumbest opponent can determine your range.

[/ QUOTE ]This is only true if your opponents adjust correctly to this range. If they accurately put you on AA/KK and then still call unprofitably, it doesn't really hurt you to only be doing this with that limited range.

I realize that's absurd, but I've found people call l/r a lot more often at 50NL than 100NL. In fact, 100NL seems so nitty against limp raises (or maybe over agro over limpers), that it seems it's profitable to limp with suited aces and suited connectors UTG with a plan to re-raise if raised from LP.

It may just be small sample size, but I've found l/r to be a much better move at 100NL than 50NL.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-30-2007, 12:38 PM
PLAYOFFS PLAYOFFS is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 174
Default Re: Stars $50 - limp/reraise with AA

[ QUOTE ]
Its pretty bad if you are only limp reraising AA/KK.

[/ QUOTE ]

As previously stated, mix it up with AKs and QQ if you do this. Maybe even weaker hand once in a blue moon. As played, looks standard. Sometimes I opt to over reraise pf with AA or KK given the fact that so many spewtards will call it with any pocket pair.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-29-2007, 02:24 PM
Jeff76 Jeff76 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,268
Default Re: Stars $50 - limp/reraise with AA

[ QUOTE ]
if i limp reraise to about $8 at $50 nl i get called very often by i would assume AK, because they fold when the flop is low and i bet.

[/ QUOTE ]This would also be how a set miner would respond to a l/r- there are plenty of people at 50NL who will not fold a chance to hit a set even if they are not getting a reasonable price.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-29-2007, 03:08 PM
ship_it_trebek ship_it_trebek is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: ill take eZ stax for 100
Posts: 848
Default Re: Stars $50 - limp/reraise with AA

Yeah I was speaking from 100NL perspective. People do call limp-rr more at 50NL in my experience, but I still think its important getting in the habit to make certain moves with a wider range of hands.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-30-2007, 05:33 AM
JSampras1 JSampras1 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 152
Default Re: Stars $50 - limp/reraise with AA

I know i need to mix it up, but i don't ALWAYS limp/reraise AA and KK. Right now i'm around 50/50 from EP, and I'm thinking about mixing in like AKs or some other random hands just to mix it up. But with the number of players on pokerstars, and the amount of people who are just bad, i don't think making obvious plays kills me.

For instance, i lead into raisers with sets 100% of the time, and I am amazed how many people raise big/call 3 bets, or 4 bet with AA or TPTK. I was thinking mix it up, but it works almost every time, so why change it?

Like this example. Calling with anything there for over 20% of his stack is ridiculous. If he thinks his hand is good, he should push. If he thinks I have AA or KK, he should fold anything else. Yet i see this called 50% of the time or more.

He was actually raising 88, called the raise, setted the flop, and stacked me. If i had just raised preflop, he would have called for $2, hit his set, and I would have been in trouble with an SPR of around 10+. So i figure this way, either i miss the limp/reraise and i have a huge SPR and can easily fold to action, or i hit it and have an SPR of like 2 and then i push any flop. With so many set miners, isn't this what i want to be doing?
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:38 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.