400 NL: Deep stack committed? Seems ridiculous but should I c/f river?

[iponnet]

hero smooth calls turn raise, c/c river

you are playing kind of deep, even donks catch hands

[mattaasen]

yeah its a bad card but i dont think im folding.................if he filled up oh well shove get the money in and hope he pays off folding here is bad and i doubt he bluffs if u check with a busted draw so just shove it in his face hope he has kq

as for smooth calling or whatever the donk said before me? i want what he is smoking.....cause thats horrible!!!!.....just calling his min raise this deep with two flush draws on such a coordinated board against a donk who seems like a station out of position is f'n AWFUL

i think id probably check raise turn , but your lead is not bad at all either

im raising turn 100 percent of time here..... u played it fine and id pay him off if he beat u just too much in the pot

[john voight]

lol i play NL30 and I think the guy who said smooth turn and then c/c river is mildy retarded.

[Bluegrassplayer]

Well I think he's right about c/c the river, I like your bet on the turn though. I don't think I can get away from this one. I think it's possible that he overplays a/k or k/q here.

[DjSkyy]

I think you played it fine, and should shove the river.

[iponnet]

we cant c/c river if we raise his turn raise, because we will be c/c the rest of our stack. if villan is a moron he may verywell be slowplaying something like AJ/88.

and there is a reason why you play NL30 you dumbnooob

[AllTheCheese]

Why would we not want to pump the turn? We have the nuts drawing to the nuts, effectively. He doesn't have AJ. There's really no reason why he would small-bet the flop with AJ when he could

a) Take a free card (IMO far and away the most likely thing an unknown would do if he had AJ)
b) Make a bigger bluff because he only has Ace high

The only reason to call turn is if you think we can maximize value this way. IMO this is not the case if we put Villain on sets and two pair.

[iponnet]

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Why would we not want to pump the turn? We have the nuts drawing to the nuts, effectively. He doesn't have AJ. There's really no reason why he would small-bet the flop with AJ when he could

a) Take a free card (IMO far and away the most likely thing an unknown would do if he had AJ)
b) Make a bigger bluff because he only has Ace high

The only reason to call turn is if you think we can maximize value this way. IMO this is not the case if we put Villain on sets and two pair.

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you are right but I would make an exception since we are playing deep, if we had 100bb your play above is standard.

[SABR42]

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hero smooth calls turn raise, c/c river

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Wait, what?