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NL25 Queens on low board
Standard? Button is 18/10/3.2
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) MP3 ($35.25) CO ($18.80) Button ($28.15) SB ($10.35) BB ($4.50) UTG ($4.25) UTG+1 ($9.75) Hero ($59.45) MP2 ($20.55) Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.85</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls $0.85, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>. Flop: ($2.05) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.75</font>, Button calls $1.75. Turn: ($5.55) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, Button calls $5. River: ($15.55) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $51.85 (All-In)</font> (Button has $20.55 left) |
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Re: NL25 Queens on low board
Post in Full Ring next time. I check/call river or sometimes CRAI on river. Villain obv likes his hand here and there's a much wider range of hands he'll bet with on the river that we beat than hands he'll call a shove on the river with.
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Re: NL25 Queens on low board
I play it exactly the same. Might just go for 1/2 pot on the river without a pretty good read he was a station, but meh I still like it. NH
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Re: NL25 Queens on low board
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Post in Full Ring next time. I check/call river or sometimes CRAI on river. Villain obv likes his hand here and there's a much wider range of hands he'll bet with on the river that we beat than hands he'll call a shove on the river with. [/ QUOTE ] I don't agree. I think the villain is pretty desperate to see a showdown with 77-99, possibly lower pairs, JT-AT etc.. doesn't look to me like he has us beat at all, and he would almost certainly check behind. |
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Re: NL25 Queens on low board
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[ QUOTE ] Post in Full Ring next time. I check/call river or sometimes CRAI on river. Villain obv likes his hand here and there's a much wider range of hands he'll bet with on the river that we beat than hands he'll call a shove on the river with. [/ QUOTE ] I don't agree. I think the villain is pretty desperate to see a showdown with 77-99, possibly lower pairs, JT-AT etc.. doesn't look to me like he has us beat at all, and he would almost certainly check behind. [/ QUOTE ] with an AF of 3.2 I am sure we will get raised on the flop if he holds 77-99 since there would be a lot of scare cards to him. |
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Re: NL25 Queens on low board
It looks kind of fishy to me. A 3.2 aggression factor is pretty high.
I would C/C the river. He could bluff with KJ or something but I don't think he is calling a shove with a hand we can beat. |
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Re: NL25 Queens on low board
I think we need to bet at least something for value on this river. There aren't that many draws out - 76 is the only one, (and I'm not sure that calls a PSB on the turn), and that will often give up on the river anyway. His hand looks more like a middle pair to me. The question is, what's the most +EV bet size on the river for me? Also can we ever fold if we bet half-pot on the river and get raised? Does being able to fold the times we're beat add to our EV?
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Re: NL25 Queens on low board
River bet is very very bad IMO. Nothing you beat calls your bet if villian has 1/2 a brain, which it looks like he does.
Bet 1/2 pot and let him pay you off with JJ/99 |
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Re: NL25 Queens on low board
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River bet is very very bad IMO. Nothing you beat calls your bet if villian has 1/2 a brain, which it looks like he does. [/ QUOTE ] Ive seen AK played like this enough to make that call, depending on stats/reads. His shove looks desperate enough to induce 66-99 to call. And villain does not hold JJ lol |
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