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Re: river bluff vs. 2p2er
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i was saying that wanting to "take it down" preflop was a joke [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, much better to trap OOP with a monster like TT. Plus you hit a set like 40% of the time, right? |
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Re: river bluff vs. 2p2er
my last post on preflop: yes, one or more overcards will flop pretty often. yes, it will be more difficult to play, in general, than if i repopped it. that said, if i 3bet, the original raiser will call pretty often, and overcards will still flop 70% of the time. i'll be dealing with one villain instead of two, sure, but the hand will still be tricky to play. whatever.
66: when i said "pretend i have 66," i meant just for preflop. you guys are 100% right that postflop, it is different than TT. my point was, "please ignore preflop." [ QUOTE ] fwiw i like a flop c/r with a pretty big range here althought i know you hate raising [/ QUOTE ] i don't mind this line at all, and it certainly makes the hand easier to play. as i'm sure you know, i'd prefer doing it with air to with TT. [ QUOTE ] This hand in a vacuum looks kinda weird [/ QUOTE ] true for sure, but part of it is just that i play "weird"/nonstandard pretty often. perhaps it causes me to run into trouble in ssnl at times because my metagame differs from that of more "straightforward" tags, and i am probably guilty of making poor assumptions at times about other players (usually in the area of giving too much credit, i think). that said, if some of you guys are snapcalling in this spot with a queen against someone like me, good luck. [ QUOTE ] we aren't playing me, you are playing a 30/10/1, he's not folding a Q your assholery is excused. [/ QUOTE ] i apologize for my "assholery" towards you, but the quote makes it clear that you've given the op next to no thought. it frustrates me that such a good player is willing to post in ssnl but very often seems to provide (what i believe to be) substance-less content. |
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Re: river bluff vs. 2p2er
edit in 3, 2, 1...
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Re: river bluff vs. 2p2er
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my last post on preflop: yes, one or more overcards will flop pretty often. yes, it will be more difficult to play, in general, than if i repopped it. that said, if i 3bet, the original raiser will call pretty often, and overcards will still flop 70% of the time. i'll be dealing with one villain instead of two, sure, but the hand will still be tricky to play. whatever. [/ QUOTE ] this is terrible reasoning for not raising, you go ahead and acknowledge all the advantages for raising, then say w/e it'll still be hard, so I call. Just admit you made a mistake and move on. |
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Re: river bluff vs. 2p2er
not really. most hands are easier to play if you 3bet them preflop. i think the ev of 3betting here is extremely similar to the ev of calling.
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Re: river bluff vs. 2p2er
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not really. most hands are easier to play if you 3bet them preflop. i think the ev of 3betting here is extremely similar to the ev of calling. [/ QUOTE ] yes because getting more money in while we are definitely ahead of not one, but two villains calling ranges is a bad idea. |
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Re: river bluff vs. 2p2er
the 2p2er calls a 3bet next to never.
i'm probably something like 50/50 against the other guy's range for continuing. that might be a little off, i'd have to think about it and pokerstove a little. but really, one of us can start another thread about this if you want, can we end the discussion about preflop? |
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