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check/call 1 8.33%
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Old 11-27-2007, 11:27 PM
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Default Re: $25NL, flop str8

more on flop and turn but otherwise looks good
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Old 11-28-2007, 12:12 AM
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Default Re: $25NL, flop str8

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more on flop and turn but otherwise looks good

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Old 11-28-2007, 02:48 AM
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Default Re: $25NL, flop str8

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($194)
UTG ($213.35)
MP ($50)
CO ($464)
Hero ($199)
SB ($157.70)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $8, MP calls $8.

Flop: ($31) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $10</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $10.

Turn: ($51) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $22</font>, BB calls $22.

River: ($95) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $74</font>, Hero?

Villian is sethypoopoo. He seemed solid and had a nice stack on 2 tables I was on with him. I forget his stats, but they weren't anything abnormal.
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Old 11-28-2007, 02:57 AM
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Default Re: $25NL, flop str8

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($401.70)
Button ($216.50)
SB ($199)
BB ($200)
Hero ($205.35)
MP ($229.90)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $8, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($25) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $16</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $42</font>, BB folds, Hero?

Villian is MrteddyKGB. He's a nit who minraises a lot. But should know me etc. from SNGs. I am quite sure he has an ace here. But I am also quite sure if I hit my set, I would have a hard time stacking him. Or maybe he even is smelling weakness in my cbet. Really tempting to repop this to $110 or something.
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Old 11-28-2007, 03:05 AM
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Default Re: $25NL, flop str8

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($270.65)
UTG ($200)
MP ($70.75)
Hero ($199.15)
SB ($59.40)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $8, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($19) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $14</font>, Hero calls $14.

Turn: ($47) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $32</font>, Hero calls $32.

River: ($111) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $55</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $145.15</font>, UTG folds.

KjEtTiNg said, "set?"

Villian had shown a willingness to felt with an 88 overpair previously.
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Old 11-28-2007, 05:23 AM
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Default just lost 17 buyins to one guy at HU

I'm pretty sick about it. First time poker has made me nausoes in a while. I honestly don't think he was very good (but wtf do I know, i just lost 17 bi...) I would rebuy, build up to 4 or 5 buyins and get raped, over and over and over. The guy was just never in behind. god, i might suck, honestly donno. highlights below.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (2 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($2025.20)
Hero ($845.35)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $6</font>, Hero calls $4.

Flop: ($12) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $12</font>, Hero calls $12.

Turn: ($36) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $32</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $82</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $132</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $293</font>, Button calls $161.

River: ($622) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $534.35 (All-In)</font>, Button calls $534.35.

Final Pot: $1690.70

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 5d 4s (straight, six high).
Button has 2d 2s (full house, twos full of threes).
Outcome: Button wins $1690.70. </font>



PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (2 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($587.30)
Hero ($731.30)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $6</font>, Hero calls $4.

Flop: ($12) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $32</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $52</font>, Hero calls $20.

Turn: ($116) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $82</font>, Hero calls $82.

River: ($280) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $223</font>, Button calls $223.

Final Pot: $726

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Jd Ts (two pair, jacks and tens).
Button has Qs Td (two pair, queens and tens).
Outcome: Button wins $726. </font>


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (2 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($986.05)
Hero ($311.85)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $20</font>, Button calls $14.

Flop: ($40) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $24</font>, Button calls $24.

Turn: ($88) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $70</font>, Button calls $70.

River: ($228) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $197.85 (All-In)</font>, Button calls $197.85.

Final Pot: $623.70

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Jc Js (full house, jacks full of sixes).
Button has Qc Qd (full house, queens full of sixes).
Outcome: Button wins $623.70. </font>
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Old 11-28-2007, 05:41 AM
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Default Re: just lost 17 buyins to one guy at HU

First let me say that HU is very read dependent and it's tough for us to say what's spew.

I think that first hand your raises were too small on the turn. Your c/r is probably fine although I usually go larger, but once he min3bets I'm popping it up to like 400 since it's obvious he doesn't want to go anywhere.

2nd hand can be completely standard against some and a flop fold against others. Unless he's completely nuts postflop I think the turn is probably a fold.

3rd hand looks well played and coolerish to me.
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Old 11-28-2007, 05:44 AM
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Default Re: just lost 17 buyins to one guy at HU

stay up lacky, those are some tough hands [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

cya in vegas!! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-28-2007, 02:48 PM
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Default Re: just lost 17 buyins to one guy at HU

I think the 54o hand you probably shoved river, w/o putting him on a hand and w/o considering why is he still with you after all the betting you've been doing and asking yourself "can this paired river card help him". Don't worry, I would have played the same as you b/c I often act before I think.

I think that you should have dumped the JT hand once he raised you on the flop, afterall he raised pf, bet and raised the flop and you really don't have a hand.

The JJ hand just sucks, but you played it fine, IMO.
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Old 11-28-2007, 03:54 PM
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Default Re: just lost 17 buyins to one guy at HU

Lacky,

[img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img], that's brutal. If it would make you feel better to spend 3 hours beating up on me HU on your way to a championship, please let me know!

Suzzer,

The TT hand is just odd. I don't think your turn bet accomplishes much, I would check it through or bet more. River, I fold against villain as I remember him (been a while since I played much on stars).

The first 22 hand - obviously just fold the flop. It's just such a bad spot with all the draws and your hand that has little value. If you think he's getting out of line, I would pick better spots to play back - spots where the board isn't quite so wet and you stack up better versus his range. Even if he flopped an oesd or a flush draw with no pairs, he's still a favorite on that flop.

The second 22 hand - you played it fine. As others said, raising the flop has merit when he likes to stack off with overpairs. In fact, unless you know he's willing to fire a lot of 2nd barrels on a flop like this, raising the flop is probably the best play. Could do some quick math on what % of his range is overpairs and how often he spikes pair on the turn. Also, you should be bluff raising those flops some as well.

Karp,

The KK hand - get it in on the flop because you're OOP so the turn is a bitch, worse hands will call, draws, etc.

Dr J,

The broadway hand - what futuredoc said. Pot that flop and keep your foot on the gas.
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