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#1
11-27-2007, 03:32 AM
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Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
it's probably because I'm much looser in my 3 bet range playing 26/22, especailly if the beter is playing really tight. It's similer really to an early sng situation. he is playing REALLY tight (even though there is no real benifit here). If I'm 3 betting a wide range in possition, and he knows it, LOTS of flops are gonna put him in a really ocward spot.
good point though, there are definately different ways to play 26/22. I mostly play 20/16 ish in 6max, so more straight forward. 
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11-27-2007, 04:13 AM
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Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
Villain is 24/20/3. Thinking TAG. Yesterday I c/r a Qxx dry flop and he 3-bet bluffed and showed.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com BB ($544) UTG ($491.60) Hero ($872.83) BTN ($400) SB ($287) Preflop: Hero is MP with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $14</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BTN raises to $42</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $28. Flop: ($90) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero ????
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11-27-2007, 06:25 AM
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Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
[ QUOTE ]
Villain is 24/20/3. Thinking TAG. Yesterday I c/r a Qxx dry flop and he 3-bet bluffed and showed. Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com BB ($544) UTG ($491.60) Hero ($872.83) BTN ($400) SB ($287) Preflop: Hero is MP with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $14</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BTN raises to $42</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $28. Flop: ($90) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero ???? [/ QUOTE ] Please tell me that you need über skills to call 3bets with your hand OOP. Hurry hurry I'm like a teenager and I'm already doing it because my man DL calls'em too!
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11-27-2007, 07:23 AM
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Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
31/16/1.9, folds to 3bets only 53%, call stationish post flop
Derfisch72 ($109.85) Iceage12122 ($100) truemp ($116) Firetribe ($98.50) OrbyGlens ($89.60) Derfisch72 posts (SB) $0.50 Iceage12122 posts (BB) $1 Dealt to Firetribe As Kd truemp raises to $4 Firetribe raises to $13.50 fold, fold, fold, call, FLOP ($28.50) 3c Jd 2s check, Firetribe bets $20 truemp calls $20 TURN ($68.50) 3c Jd 2s 2d check, check, RIVER ($68.50) 3c Jd 2s 2d 8h truemp bets $22 Firetribe folds truemp wins $87.50
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#5
11-27-2007, 10:29 AM
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Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
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31/16/1.9, folds to 3bets only 53%, call stationish post flop Derfisch72 ($109.85) Iceage12122 ($100) truemp ($116) Firetribe ($98.50) OrbyGlens ($89.60) Derfisch72 posts (SB) $0.50 Iceage12122 posts (BB) $1 Dealt to Firetribe As Kd truemp raises to $4 Firetribe raises to $13.50 fold, fold, fold, call, FLOP ($28.50) 3c Jd 2s check, Firetribe bets $20 truemp calls $20 TURN ($68.50) 3c Jd 2s 2d check, check, RIVER ($68.50) 3c Jd 2s 2d 8h truemp bets $22 Firetribe folds truemp wins $87.50 [/ QUOTE ] I think you played fine
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11-27-2007, 03:26 PM
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Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
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31/16/1.9, folds to 3bets only 53%, call stationish post flop Derfisch72 ($109.85) Iceage12122 ($100) truemp ($116) Firetribe ($98.50) OrbyGlens ($89.60) Derfisch72 posts (SB) $0.50 Iceage12122 posts (BB) $1 Dealt to Firetribe As Kd truemp raises to $4 Firetribe raises to $13.50 fold, fold, fold, call, FLOP ($28.50) 3c Jd 2s check, Firetribe bets $20 truemp calls $20 TURN ($68.50) 3c Jd 2s 2d check, check, RIVER ($68.50) 3c Jd 2s 2d 8h truemp bets $22 Firetribe folds truemp wins $87.50 [/ QUOTE ] Looks fine to me. You could check behind the flop and look for a cheap showdown too.
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#7
11-27-2007, 03:41 PM
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Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
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[ QUOTE ] 31/16/1.9, folds to 3bets only 53%, call stationish post flop Derfisch72 ($109.85) Iceage12122 ($100) truemp ($116) Firetribe ($98.50) OrbyGlens ($89.60) Derfisch72 posts (SB) $0.50 Iceage12122 posts (BB) $1 Dealt to Firetribe As Kd truemp raises to $4 Firetribe raises to $13.50 fold, fold, fold, call, FLOP ($28.50) 3c Jd 2s check, Firetribe bets $20 truemp calls $20 TURN ($68.50) 3c Jd 2s 2d check, check, RIVER ($68.50) 3c Jd 2s 2d 8h truemp bets $22 Firetribe folds truemp wins $87.50 [/ QUOTE ] Looks fine to me. You could check behind the flop and look for a cheap showdown too. [/ QUOTE ] How happy woukd I be calling two future bets with A-high? (real question)
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#9
11-27-2007, 10:28 AM
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Villain is 24/20/3. Thinking TAG. Yesterday I c/r a Qxx dry flop and he 3-bet bluffed and showed. Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com BB ($544) UTG ($491.60) Hero ($872.83) BTN ($400) SB ($287) Preflop: Hero is MP with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $14</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BTN raises to $42</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $28. Flop: ($90) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero ???? [/ QUOTE ] Why not reraise preflop? This hand will be difficult to play post flop oop. Bet/fold flop as played I guess...
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11-27-2007, 11:05 AM
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Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
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Villain is 24/20/3. Thinking TAG. Yesterday I c/r a Qxx dry flop and he 3-bet bluffed and showed. Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com BB ($544) UTG ($491.60) Hero ($872.83) BTN ($400) SB ($287) Preflop: Hero is MP with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $14</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BTN raises to $42</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $28. Flop: ($90) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero ???? [/ QUOTE ] I normally fold with a hand like this to a preflop 3-bet if I'm OOP against a good player and effective stacks are 100bb's or less. I think at higher higher limits such as this calling once-in-a-while is ok because you can play your flopped draws fast and count on having some FE. My first thought would be to consider what his 3-bet bluff the day before meant. Was it just one of those board texture bluffs where he knew you could only continue with a very small range of hands? Or do you think he was making a move on you based on a read that he thinks you play strong hands fast but c/r with air? I this you should play this however you would play a set OOP in a 3-bet pot with this board against this villain (considering what you think his earlier move on you meant). The only reason I might deviate from that line is if it might lead to him getting his chips in before you. You want some FE if all your chips are going in. Wow, I feel like a politician with that response... [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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