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11-26-2007, 09:17 PM
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Re: 10+1 MTT: Does Villain have to beat King high straight here?
I would have checked the turn. If he's bluffing, there's no way you can justify a call with four cards to a straight on the board.
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11-26-2007, 10:36 PM
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Re: 10+1 MTT: Does Villain have to beat King high straight here?
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Fold pf [/ QUOTE ] Really...115BB on the button? Also, does anyone raise this flop? I've been playing live maniacal cash games for the last 6 months so my bearings may be off. With that weak lead, I raise the flop. And I take the free river.
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12-01-2007, 10:36 AM
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Re: 10+1 MTT: Does Villain have to beat King high straight here?
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[ QUOTE ] Fold pf [/ QUOTE ] Really...115BB on the button? Also, does anyone raise this flop? I've been playing live maniacal cash games for the last 6 months so my bearings may be off. With that weak lead, I raise the flop. And I take the free river. [/ QUOTE ] I think that's the right line. Preflop call with AJ that deep is fine of course, but the flop is where you should have raised.
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12-01-2007, 12:12 PM
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Re: 10+1 MTT: Does Villain have to beat King high straight here?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Fold pf [/ QUOTE ] Really...115BB on the button? Also, does anyone raise this flop? I've been playing live maniacal cash games for the last 6 months so my bearings may be off. With that weak lead, I raise the flop. And I take the free river. [/ QUOTE ] I think that's the right line. Preflop call with AJ that deep is fine of course, but the flop is where you should have raised. [/ QUOTE ] I don't get this at all. What are we possibly folding out on that flop with a raise in a $10? Also, does anyone 3bet pre? We're OTB with what is probably the best hand. I usually 3bet this pre, then take it down with a cbet on the rag flop that usually comes.
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#7
12-01-2007, 01:40 PM
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Re: 10+1 MTT: Does Villain have to beat King high straight here?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Fold pf [/ QUOTE ] Really...115BB on the button? Also, does anyone raise this flop? I've been playing live maniacal cash games for the last 6 months so my bearings may be off. With that weak lead, I raise the flop. And I take the free river. [/ QUOTE ] I think that's the right line. Preflop call with AJ that deep is fine of course, but the flop is where you should have raised. [/ QUOTE ] I don't get this at all. What are we possibly folding out on that flop with a raise in a $10? Also, does anyone 3bet pre? We're OTB with what is probably the best hand. I usually 3bet this pre, then take it down with a cbet on the rag flop that usually comes. [/ QUOTE ] 1.) AJ is too weak for a 3-bet. This is usually a hand you fold to a preflop raise, while we are here nearly 100BBs deep so calling in position is fine. 2.) You are last to act so c-betting as a Go'n'go won't work. 3.) 3betting to lets say 450 lets you cross the commitment threshold, which is not what you want with a hand as week as this. If you hit an ace on the turn you will often stack off to a better ace. 4.) On the flop we have to decide what is our plan. Keep the pot small and try to hit our draw or try to take it down immediately with a semibluff. AS our draw is not very strong (if we hit an 8 on the turn we might stack off to a higher straight) I think making a move to take the pot down on the flop is fine - specially as his flop-bet is really weak.
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#8
11-26-2007, 10:40 PM
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Re: 10+1 MTT: Does Villain have to beat King high straight here?
Don't really mind call pre flop this deep on button, esp if villains been aggro. flop call fine too but whatever you do don't bet 400 on turn, that is a complete nothing bet, either 700 to make him think or preferably check behind.
fold river obv and as for laying down a K high straight tough but possible. his line is really strange and doesn't seem bothered about protecting his hand against the multitude of draws, or maybe he just doean't want to built a big pot OOP, AK perhaps? I don't think you're seeing a full too much here as sets and 2pr are gonna be charging the draws more.
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#9
12-01-2007, 09:27 AM
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Re: 10+1 MTT: Does Villain have to beat King high straight here?
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do don't bet 400 on turn, that is a complete nothing bet, either 700 to make him think or preferably check behind. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah that's what i'm figuring. I should've bet much bigger on the turn. I'm thinking a missed flush b/c he's showed weakness up to the river. Sets, 2-pair, and most better hands, play much more aggressively on flop.
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#10
11-27-2007, 01:27 AM
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Re: 10+1 MTT: Does Villain have to beat King high straight here?
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I know that I'm not calling the river bet. I'm wondering if he has a full house enough here that I would have to lay down Kx if I had it. [/ QUOTE ] He'd be a fool to check call pocket tens, queens, or jacks with the straight and the flush draws on the board. I'd have a hard time believing he has 9T 9J or 9Q with a preflop raise in middle position with the blinds still at 25/50. 9T is possible, but I'd only consider it if I had seen him raise previously with suited connectors that early in the game. Besides, he probably just has a busted diamond draw and is pushing you off the hand anyway. The check/call on the turn was suspicious.
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