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11-26-2007, 07:17 PM
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Re: KK against thinking opponent
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[ QUOTE ] Value bet. He may think you're repping a narrow range by firing this river, and will call down light. [/ QUOTE ] if he thinks i have a narrow range here then why would he call down light? [/ QUOTE ] he thinks the legit part of your range is small, not your overall range (VBs + bluffs) 
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#2
11-26-2007, 07:25 PM
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Re: KK against thinking opponent
Yes, AE6 has it right. BTW, I think:
b/f > c/f >> c/c >> b/c against this opponent I would never c/c or b/c against a player like this who probably isn't going to turn a made hand into a bluff.
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#3
11-26-2007, 07:28 PM
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Re: KK against thinking opponent
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Yes, AE6 has it right. BTW, I think: b/f > c/f >> c/c >> b/c against this opponent I would never c/c or b/c against a player like this who probably isn't going to turn a made hand into a bluff. [/ QUOTE ] ok thats exactly what i thought, but gratned that that card changed the dynamic of the board a lot i opted to check because i just couldnt figure him for a hand that would pay off if i led. maybe he thinks my bluff range now is wider and might but i dont see why hed call a bet here with QJ/KJ i checked he bet 62 i folded.
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#4
11-27-2007, 12:43 AM
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Re: KK against thinking opponent
Tbh id rather c/r AI than c/c here, simply because he is never betting with a worse hand. So he has either AJ a flush or FH, at least by c/r AI you can occasionally win the pot.
I still like c/f because if you bet i dont think he looks you up with a random J or underpair here.
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#5
11-27-2007, 01:01 AM
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Re: KK against thinking opponent
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Tbh id rather c/r AI than c/c here, simply because he is never betting with a worse hand. So he has either AJ a flush or FH, at least by c/r AI you can occasionally win the pot. I still like c/f because if you bet i dont think he looks you up with a random J or underpair here. [/ QUOTE ] if i check he bets he never folds to a c/r. stacks arent deep enough, and even if they were why would i be check raising a hand that beat AJ given the line id taken thus far. cr/ai is getting looked up by AJ+ 100% of the time imo
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#6
11-27-2007, 01:03 AM
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Re: KK against thinking opponent
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b/f > c/f >> c/c >> b/c against this opponent [/ QUOTE ] Agreed. You're getting owned hardcore if you c/c frequently in this spot.
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#7
11-27-2007, 01:08 AM
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Re: KK against thinking opponent
b/f
dont expect to be called much
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