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#2
11-26-2007, 06:55 PM
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Re: KK against thinking opponent
I see nothing wrong with CF. What worse hand is going to bet the river?
it's between cf and bf depending on how lightly villain may call down. I don't think there's a ton of value to be had, so I'm pretty ok with cf 
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#3
11-26-2007, 06:58 PM
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Re: KK against thinking opponent
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[ QUOTE ] If you bet will he fold QQ? [/ QUOTE ] totally an irrelevant point, he has QQ exactly never [/ QUOTE ] Way to see only the trees and miss the forest.
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#4
11-26-2007, 07:02 PM
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Re: KK against thinking opponent
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] If you bet will he fold QQ? [/ QUOTE ] totally an irrelevant point, he has QQ exactly never [/ QUOTE ] Way to see only the trees and miss the forest. [/ QUOTE ] he is right though, there basically is no way hes here with a hand like QQ. i understand your point and given river i dont think he calls me with anything i beat, right?
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#5
11-26-2007, 07:15 PM
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Re: KK against thinking opponent
I think cc is the best option here
Villain didnt raise preflop which with his stats leads me to believe he doesnt have an A or any pair. I think he is most likely calling PF with suited connectors with a J or a 5 (J more likely due to combinations). With a 5 he may well play it slow even tho theres an FD out there and with a J he might feel pot control is more important option HU than hand protection. I dont think he has a FD so Im not too worried about the spade on the river as I think a FD folds the turn here. As a result I think cc is the best option. I definitely dont like a fold but Id hate to bet out and be raised. Of course he could be varying his play and calling PF with any of the hands I ruled out above including AA [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] Edit to say .... hmmm maybe a J doesnt bet out here on the river and of my likely range only a 5 bets out. Damn .... ummmm .... call a bet of 45 or less maybe and fold to bigger.
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#6
11-27-2007, 01:47 AM
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Re: KK against thinking opponent
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[ QUOTE ] per street agg factors are 3.71/1.25/1.11 [/ QUOTE ] meh, for some reason I thought he was aggro. Seems like he will check a lot of stuff behind. If you bet will he fold QQ? If he calls with QQ, you have to bet. c-f otherwise. [/ QUOTE ] lol he never has QQ here and betting just to hope he has QQ AND will call is ridiculous. I don't think jacks or mid pairs r looking u up unless ur image is absolutely terrible (they only beat a complete bluff on all 3 streets) and I also doubt they value bet the river if checked to so pretty easy c/f IMO, he could easily have spades and have played passively or AJ, I think it will be checked through most of the time though and his QJ or something won't be good.
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