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11-26-2007, 12:50 PM
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Re: 200NL - Strangeish line against clown
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In addition, I think the turn raise keeps him honest; I'm repping a monster imo. [/ QUOTE ] If you think he thinks and you're repping a monster to him and he's donking the river the correct read is to fold. As played I crying call then get really pissed off and end my session after he turns up A3. EDIT: besides pf stats have you seen him donk streets previously? If it's typical of him I'd say you can justify calling. 
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11-26-2007, 01:01 PM
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Re: 200NL - Strangeish line against clown
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[ QUOTE ] In addition, I think the turn raise keeps him honest; I'm repping a monster imo. [/ QUOTE ] So why did you call the river? [/ QUOTE ] cause villain's hand doesn't add up. we only have to be good here a small % of time. and the villain sucks and thinking on the river can be "oh damn, my straight didn't get there, i can't win by checking down, i have to bet to win" (while conveniently forgetting what the hero was repping on the turn.)
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11-26-2007, 01:03 PM
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Re: 200NL - Strangeish line against clown
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] In addition, I think the turn raise keeps him honest; I'm repping a monster imo. [/ QUOTE ] So why did you call the river? [/ QUOTE ] cause villain's hand doesn't add up. we only have to be good here a small % of time. and the villain sucks and thinking on the river can be "oh damn, my straight didn't get there, i can't win by checking down, i have to bet to win" (while conveniently forgetting what the hero was repping on the turn.) [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, but what's the reasoning repping a monster on the turn with a marginal hand if you don't think villain cares?
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#7
11-26-2007, 01:01 PM
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Re: 200NL - Strangeish line against clown
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[ QUOTE ] In addition, I think the turn raise keeps him honest; I'm repping a monster imo. [/ QUOTE ] So why did you call the river? [/ QUOTE ] Yeah really, if you're going to raise the turn you can't call the river imo. In that case calling the turn is better, which is a reasonable line if you're uncertain about how villain would react on the turn to a raise.
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#8
11-26-2007, 01:04 PM
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Re: 200NL - Strangeish line against clown
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] In addition, I think the turn raise keeps him honest; I'm repping a monster imo. [/ QUOTE ] So why did you call the river? [/ QUOTE ] Yeah really, if you're going to raise the turn you can't call the river imo. In that case calling the turn is better, which is a reasonable line if you're uncertain about how villain would react on the turn to a raise. [/ QUOTE ] against a thinking opponent, i'd agree. against a donk who doesn't think about our cards, i disagree. The thing is that donks have street by street short term memory.
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11-26-2007, 01:22 PM
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Re: 200NL - Strangeish line against clown
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against a thinking opponent, i'd agree. against a donk who doesn't think about our cards, i disagree. The thing is that donks have street by street short term memory. [/ QUOTE ] Turn: "Looks like top set, I'll call with my gutshot and stack him. River: "Hmmm, actually seems more like AK imo, I bet"
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#10
11-26-2007, 01:28 PM
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Re: 200NL - Strangeish line against clown
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] In addition, I think the turn raise keeps him honest; I'm repping a monster imo. [/ QUOTE ] So why did you call the river? [/ QUOTE ] Yeah really, if you're going to raise the turn you can't call the river imo. In that case calling the turn is better, which is a reasonable line if you're uncertain about how villain would react on the turn to a raise. [/ QUOTE ] against a thinking opponent, i'd agree. against a donk who doesn't think about our cards, i disagree. The thing is that donks have street by street short term memory. [/ QUOTE ] But the reasoning to rep a monster and keep him honest is obv flawed if we're paying off the river. And if we think this is true (villain has a short term memory loss), why would we like to raise the turn instead of just calling down? Either we raise the turn and fold to any more resistance or we just call down imho. We just don't like to play a big pot with such a weak hand if we think villain might be spazzy.
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