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Old 11-25-2007, 07:11 PM
Shaver67 Shaver67 is offline
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Default Re: Nl10, QQ clickraised on flop.

First of all 1.69 on a 62 vpip is fairly aggressive. (45 hands isn't much but things will converge faster when you play 62% of your hands)

Second I would never lay down QQ as an over pair against a terrible player because while he can have us beat he can also have flush draws, straight draws (a 62 vpip can felt a gutshot), all sorts of top pair hands, some 99/88/JJ and air .

I'd raise slightly more pf and I'd just shove over his cr to induce the largest mistake when he's behind and willing to put more in.
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Old 11-25-2007, 08:27 PM
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Default Re: Nl10, QQ clickraised on flop.

This seems to be close, lot's of diffrent replys.

I'd like some more please. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-25-2007, 11:04 PM
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Default Re: Nl10, QQ clickraised on flop.

I'm usually not getting it in here without some sort of a better read on villain; e.g. seeing him felt top pair or raise a flush draw like this.

Just call, bet turn and see what he does. If he raises you again, I'd probably say lay this down.
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Old 11-25-2007, 11:10 PM
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Default Re: Nl10, QQ clickraised on flop.

this is a flop bet/3bet and shove or call shove and it's not even close. his range here is huge and you beat most all draws and quite a bit of made hands. with his PFR so low you can add JJ to this range and this makes it much easier to just play for stacks here.
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Old 11-25-2007, 11:43 PM
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Default Re: Nl10, QQ clickraised on flop.

It is always suspicious when a call-station suddenly becomes very aggro post-flop. Do you have stats on his c-bet fold %? If this is high he very likely REALLY likes his hand and I would say fold. However, there is a lot of money in the pot so it could go either way. But my gut says you fold this to his most likely holding, which is probably a set.
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Old 11-25-2007, 11:56 PM
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Default Re: Nl10, QQ clickraised on flop.

I am getting it on in on this flop. Good overpair against a very loose 10NL player. I am not folding this hand at 10NL.
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Old 11-26-2007, 12:19 AM
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Default Re: Nl10, QQ clickraised on flop.

I just stoved pretty much this exact hand in this thread:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...=1#Post13114510

If you're getting 3-1 on his shove, then yah, call.

You're ok with your 3-bet against this guy. You could make an argument either way though.

Against a more standard opponent, don't 3-bet and try to get to showdown cheaply.
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Old 11-26-2007, 10:56 AM
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Default Re: Nl10, QQ clickraised on flop.

Well, i got it in against TT. GG me.
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Old 11-26-2007, 11:26 AM
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Default Re: Nl10, QQ clickraised on flop.

WTF is a Click Raise
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