Ask me about financial success to spending 2 years state prison

[golfnutt]

Did people in jail know you were Jewish? I am Jewish myself and that is my worst fear. Can't join the ethnic gangs or the Aryan Brotherhood.

What is a white (lol) Jewish bro to do?

I know a bunch of stockbrokers. Virtually ALL push the boundary of the laws.

DA is highly political. Look at the Duke Lacrosse garbage.

I would have fought it tooth and nail. I don't care if a trail would take 9 months.

Good read.

[BigPoppa]

Guiliani made his name as a US Attorney by prosecuting a lot of white collar guys who would've only normally faced civil suits.

[xx44]

Mr,

For the plea I asked about that, my lawyer said it was different than the feds in that the DOC had total say where I go.

DHG,

Yeah not so much of a strain because of where I was located. It def sucked, but I was able to see her 2x/week for 5hrs each day, and I spoke with her everyday for an hour. Conjugal are only the maxs, but we had our share of long kisses and little rubbing.

FWIW some people were able to get laid in the visitor bathroom durin visits

Adebisi,

Totally thought about running. I knew that thye would not come after me, but I would never be able to come back to the US again. They did want my passport, my lawyer told them I lost it, which I di, and they never said anything after. No assets were frozen, surprisingly . The head DA is still there, he did the Tyco investigation. His assistant is now trying to be a white collar defense attorney

[xx44]

Hawk,

Most of the guards (co) were alright. At the worst they were a stickler for rules, ie. write you up for smoking. At the very worst they were [censored], like the co who wrote me up when I had my hand on the inside of my gf thigh in visit. But I didnt see any that were abusive. Some I had conversations with, but you definitely did not want to be known as one who always spoke to the co's.

Miss,

No rita, but I did read the count of monte cristo in there 1400 pages.

Tornado,

The day I will never forget is when our SEC lawyer called us and said he was contacted by the Da. The incompetent ADA called him by mistake, essentially tipping him that my office was involved in an investifgation. LOL, at the end of the conversation the ADA told my lawyer "dont say anything".

Our SEC guy said we should probably think about talking to criminal lawyers. We were like "huh". I still did not think it was a big deal until a week later, when our new criminal lawyers went down to the DA to see what was up. They came back and told us that the DA truly believes we did something wrong. My "fun life" ended there. For the next 9 months our lawyers were trying to prove to the DA we were in no way involved with criminal activity and had no idea what the other ofices were doing. Like I wrote in a previous post, a lawyer told us woith this DA "God himself could come down and tell him he is wrong , and he still wont believe it".

So 9 months after learning about the investigation wwe were indicted. Our lawyers filed what I thtought were fabulous motion to dismiss (which rarely happens) and 1 year after indictment was a trial.

Oddly enough, I never saw a fight, saw threats but no fights.The atmosphere in my jail was I guess very laid back relatively speaking.

[xx44]

BXb,

I think I heard of one guard who was bringing drugs in, but that wasabout it.

Vyse,

On the visit, their girl or whoever would bring it in a balloon. Pass it to them, and they would either swallow it (chit it out later) or boof it (shove it way up the butt).

After a visit we are stripped searched, bend over and spread them type.

Golf,

I dont think the aryans run deep in NY. I did see one or two with "white power" on their arms.

I at first was worried about that. When I ws in Rikers I told people I was half jewish, nobody cared. When I got to my prison I was back to full Jewish, again rarely heard anything racist. There were about 7 Jewish guys in the whole prison (400 people), but we were allowed to have our own synagogue( a small room), have friday dinners (I am reformed, but the guy made a mean shabbos dinner). And all the holidays. We even were allowed to have a Sukkas(sp). A rabbi came once a week, as one is assigned to every 5 jail.
Religion, and race wre respected.

As far as your fighting attitude, mine was the same. I would have gone a 2 year trial if I knew there was a decent chance of einning on all counts. THe leverag the Da has, and why most of these cases plea out is they make the risk reward so great.

Big,

Exactly

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JS,

The worst of prison was not being with my girl, and family.

It was SO SO much better than I imagined. If I knew it was like it was I would have plead in the beginnging to 6 months and 41/2 yrs parole. But this was when OZ was still on, and I was freaking.

The thing that changesd the most, aside from no longer living the HI-LIfe, is that any arrogance I had is gone. Jail is a humbling experience. I also dont getupset about the little things.

Noodle,

When I first got to my prison they only had a single fence, with vibration monitors. There was one part tht was easy enough to scale with no monitors there. They however fixed a few months later, then put up a second perimeter.

Dmish,

I am sure you are not alone in thinking that. The only similarity was that we were aggressive. Our clients were buying mostly big cap techs, msft,intc and maybe 5-10% of their portfolio were in spec stocks.

[bxb]

What did you do on the day before you went in?

[xx44]

Had a quiet dinner and finished packing my apartment.

[xx44]

We had one tv for our housing unit of about 35 people. Obv majority rules and it was mostly Sports, BET and wb shows some Caliente. Afer 9 months there and feeling comfortable with my surroundings, you know friendly with most, respected etc...The winter olympics were strting, and I am die hard hockey fan. It was the Can-Us game, so the day before during a commercial break of Moesha I aske dthe room if it is cool we watch the game, nobody seemed to mind.

The next day when the game ws starting I walk in and change whatever was on to the game (bad move). I then was told to change it back. I did not and sat down as the game started, another brother got up and changed it back. So I was like f this, and got up to change it again.

I was approaching the tv, ACE nce guy, long dread in for attempted murder in calm voice just said "Do your bid xx". My response was " TRHis is a one time thing and I do not think it will be terrible to watch a couple hours of hockey". "Do your bid" was all he said. Good thing that reason cam e to mind and I left it alone.

That was the closest I came to forgetting where I was. I will say we did watch the last period which was cool. BUt that is how chit goes down in jail, over the littlest things.

[xx44]

Low,

Masturbation is obv a needed. You are supposed to bring your mag to the bathroom and do it there (doors on stalls). I will admit that I broke the rule and never did it there. When alone in my room I would. If my bunkie caught me it would not be good.

5-4,

When I said "all firms do it", I was not trying to justify , but showing that what we did was industry norms. For example a broker at morgan stanley was just as aggressive and was not telling their clients all the risks involved with a recommende investment.