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Old 11-23-2007, 09:21 PM
NSM NSM is offline
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Default Re: $115 NLTRN-I never get value with these hands!

Why not build the pot with a bet on the flop? You have a nice combo draw/pair, but your hand is not invulnerable and it's conceivable that you were behind at some point in this hand post flop, so I don't really agree that this is a slow play spot.
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Old 11-23-2007, 10:08 PM
cwar cwar is offline
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Default Re: $115 NLTRN-I never get value with these hands!

Indy was c/raising the flop NSM. You must bet the turn and river I would bet more like 250-275 range.
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Old 11-23-2007, 10:20 PM
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Default Re: $115 NLTRN-I never get value with these hands!

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Indy was c/raising the flop NSM. You must bet the turn and river I would bet more like 250-275 range.

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so the key is to bet the turn? I was so afraid to get pushed off my beautiful hand if i bet turn and he raised.

Indy
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Old 11-24-2007, 05:04 AM
Vinetou Vinetou is offline
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Default Re: $115 NLTRN-I never get value with these hands!

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Indy was c/raising the flop NSM. You must bet the turn and river I would bet more like 250-275 range.

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so the key is to bet the turn? I was so afraid to get pushed off my beautiful hand if i bet turn and he raised.

Indy

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Did you have any history with that guy so that you were afraid of that?
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Old 11-24-2007, 05:23 PM
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Default Re: $115 NLTRN-I never get value with these hands!

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I was so afraid to get pushed off my beautiful hand if i bet turn and he raised.

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if you bet the turn and he raised, a fold would be criminal
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Old 11-23-2007, 10:42 PM
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Default Re: $115 NLTRN-I never get value with these hands!

You're right, I wasn't factoring in what likely would/should have been a CB.
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Old 11-24-2007, 12:30 AM
daveT daveT is offline
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Default Re: $115 NLTRN-I never get value with these hands!

I agree with b/t, b/r, what about attempting c/r on river?

I don't like it really, but if the hand played out this way, it is probably the best way to play the river.

I don't understand how pf is marginal, but okay.
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