10NL - JJ on Button versus a pfr

[akak]

Surf,

So you call pf against an unknown? Then try to hit a set, and/or keep the pot small?

[Surf]

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Surf,

So you call pf against an unknown? Then try to hit a set, and/or keep the pot small?

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While this particular opponent's pfr is super-high, how he reacts to a 3bet is far more important than what he's open-raising when deciding what to 3bet with, and how much.

Until I had more information, like seeing him call a reraise OOP with a SC or small PP, I would default to call in these games.

Surf

[akak]

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Surf,

So you call pf against an unknown? Then try to hit a set, and/or keep the pot small?

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While this particular opponent's pfr is super-high, how he reacts to a 3bet is far more important than what he's open-raising when deciding what to 3bet with, and how much.

Until I had more information, like seeing him call a reraise OOP with a SC or small PP, I would default to call in these games.

Surf

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Whereas in tougher games, you would 3-bet to widen your 3-bet range?

[akak]

I was just giving some thought on watching how opponents react to three-bets. So if this opponent folded to my push, would you make a note like:

Calls 3-bets with hands < TT.

[Surf]

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I was just giving some thought on watching how opponents react to three-bets. So if this opponent folded to my push, would you make a note like:

Calls 3-bets with hands < TT.

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It's hard to discern his hand if he folded, he almost certainly has something non-premium, though there is some (small) chance he bet-folded QQ, or turned AK into an ugly bluff. I'd rather wait to actually see cards shown down to make that kind of note.

WRT 3betting JJ preflop - in a "tough" game I wouldn't reraise JJ, since my tough opponents will 4bet bluff me / 4bet valueraise me enough that I hate getting 4bet still, and conversely they may trap call with KK/AA.

However in an overaggressive game I'll 3bet JJ for value (and call a shove) because there is so much preflop shenanigans going on, and so much "he knows i know he knows so i'll bluff shove" type stuff, especially if I've been active with reraises recently.
Note that one cannot assume a game is overaggro just because it is, say, a 5/10 or 10/20 game, this is more of an opponent-specific type thing.

Surf