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Re: AA waits till turn
raise now, this is some smallish pair/draw alot that will freeze up to about half the deck on the turn.
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Re: AA waits till turn
I'm raising the flop because there are a lot of cards that drop on the turn that make me not as happy with my hand/ not want to be calling turn 3-bets. Plus they probably have crap and I have no problem with fast playing flops with the best hand.
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Re: AA waits till turn
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I'm raising the flop because there are a lot of cards that drop on the turn that make me not as happy with my hand/ not want to be calling turn 3-bets. Plus they probably have crap and I have no problem with fast playing flops with the best hand. [/ QUOTE ] yes but they will both almost certainly call another turn bet, its not protecting our hand, just juicing up the pot for the turn |
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Re: AA waits till turn
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[ QUOTE ] I'm raising the flop because there are a lot of cards that drop on the turn that make me not as happy with my hand/ not want to be calling turn 3-bets. Plus they probably have crap and I have no problem with fast playing flops with the best hand. [/ QUOTE ] yes but they will both almost certainly call another turn bet, its not protecting our hand, just juicing up the pot for the turn [/ QUOTE ] - The pot is medium sized, so I think you should be more interested in betting for value than for protection. - No amount of bets will protect you from good draws (they always have the odds to call). So just charge them the max while you're pretty sure your equity is good. - If juicing the pot now induces villain to make a bad call on the turn with a 2,3,4 or 5 outer then that's fine. |
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Re: AA waits till turn
Your opponents don't know you have AA. I would raise, as there are many cards on the turn that will dissuade BB from betting again. Even if utg+1 folded the flop, I wouldn't wait for the turn. But since he called, get the money in while it's hot. You can't guarantee a turn bet from BB nor a call from the hijack.
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Re: AA waits till turn
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[ QUOTE ] I'm raising the flop because there are a lot of cards that drop on the turn that make me not as happy with my hand/ not want to be calling turn 3-bets. Plus they probably have crap and I have no problem with fast playing flops with the best hand. [/ QUOTE ] yes but they will both almost certainly call another turn bet, its not protecting our hand, just juicing up the pot for the turn [/ QUOTE ] who ever said I was protecting my hand (although I can be against 2-5 outers)? I'm raising for pure value. |
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Re: AA waits till turn
You make good points and my default is definitely to raise the flop. But my reasoning was like this: I expect BB to bet again on a lot of turn cards. Maybe not a spade 4 or 5 unless he hit a draw. I'm not worried about UTG+1. BB's range is a lot of one pair hands, straight draws (including gutshots) and flush draws - of course there's sets and two pair as well (I discount these a bit because he didn't go for the CR on the drawy board to force out UTG+1).
Against this range my equity changes dramatically on the turn, so when a non scare card falls (almost every scare card for my opponent is a scare card for me too) and BB leads out I get to raise two players with the improved equity. If a scare card hits and he still bets I can call down now that my equity is even lower still. I think this is a reasonable thought process but is my logic flawed anywhere? Or is it just better to get the bets in now? |
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