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Stud8 - Kinda-steal with kinda-ok hand in kinda-ok spot
What do you think of the streets here?
I almost have to raise/bet 3rd, 4th and 5th right? What about 6th. I paused for a second here. I am sure everyone is coming in here to say OMG BET but I'm not so sure I am getting great value. I mean, wtf does he have? 7 Card Stud High-Low ($5/$10), Ante $1, Bring-In $1,50 (converter) 3rd Street - (1.60 SB) Seat 1: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds Seat 2: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds Seat 3: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds Seat 4: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls___calls Hero: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___completes Seat 6: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___brings-in___folds Seat 7: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds Seat 8: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds 4th Street - (3.90 SB) Seat 4: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___calls Hero: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets 5th Street - (2.95 BB) Seat 4: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls Hero: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets 6th Street - (4.95 BB) Seat 4: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls Hero: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets River - (6.95 BB) Seat 4: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] xx___folds Hero: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets Total pot: (6.95 BB - $69,50) |
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Re: Stud8 - Kinda-steal with kinda-ok hand in kinda-ok spot
This whole hand is so opponent dependent...
if villian isn't going to fold a pair of nines or stop chasing to a low then i'd just dump it on third. |
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Re: Stud8 - Kinda-steal with kinda-ok hand in kinda-ok spot
I actually thought I had an equity advantage against a pair of nines on third [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] It's just that a pair of nines sucks so hard. I guess maybe it sucks more out of a metagame perspective?
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Re: Stud8 - Kinda-steal with kinda-ok hand in kinda-ok spot
AQ2 sucks pretty hard too.
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Re: Stud8 - Kinda-steal with kinda-ok hand in kinda-ok spot
I think you played it fine apart from the initial call.
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Re: Stud8 - Kinda-steal with kinda-ok hand in kinda-ok spot
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AQ2 sucks pretty hard too. [/ QUOTE ] I've found that these "maybe two-way" hands really really suck in Stud8, so you have to be REALLY careful playing them... However in this hand you are a very slight equity dog vs. 998 (46%) and with all the dead kings I think it's definitely a reasonable play here since you can have him make mistakes on later streets. -ChipsAhoya |
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Re: Stud8 - Kinda-steal with kinda-ok hand in kinda-ok spot
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I think you played it fine apart from the initial call. [/ QUOTE ] I didn't call. So do you advocate folding in this spot? I think that seems pretty bad ... |
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Re: Stud8 - Kinda-steal with kinda-ok hand in kinda-ok spot
I think 3rd is a fold. You have a trash hand. You can't steal the antes, as someone has entered the pot, albeit with a hand that may actually be worse than yours.
The two factors that make it a fold: 1. The Rake. Any edge you might have against the limper's worse trash will be eaten by the rake. 2. The bring-in could have a hand. If he does, you've put yourself in a money-losing spot. [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I think you played it fine apart from the initial call. [/ QUOTE ] I didn't call. So do you advocate folding in this spot? I think that seems pretty bad ... [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: Stud8 - Kinda-steal with kinda-ok hand in kinda-ok spot
Actually, I had a note on seat 4 that said he had limped and folded on 3rd when I raised an ace in steal position earlier. I should have mentioned this I guess
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Re: Stud8 - Kinda-steal with kinda-ok hand in kinda-ok spot
That does help your chances. I never bother with hands like this though, although I currently only play 1-2 and 2-4. I find so many hands where I have a big edge that I don't see any reason to mess with something this close.
Maybe 5-10 requires some of this. I would be leery of entering a pot with a hand this bad though. [ QUOTE ] Actually, I had a note on seat 4 that said he had limped and folded on 3rd when I raised an ace in steal position earlier. I should have mentioned this I guess [/ QUOTE ] |
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