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Old 11-20-2007, 11:40 PM
imozyslow imozyslow is offline
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Default Re: 1000NL, JJ on low card dry flop against chr

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Well, unless the player is tricky (which is possible), wouldn't JJ = AA here?

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Look at his pf raise, I think AA-QQ are all in his range.

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you raised he cold called
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Old 11-20-2007, 11:46 PM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
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Default Re: 1000NL, JJ on low card dry flop against chr

Eh, I fold. You bet way too much on the flop imo.
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Old 11-20-2007, 11:57 PM
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Eh, I fold. You bet way too much on the flop imo.

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I think fold - is a mistake here, Such guys make such moves quite often with air. Of course he check-raised me a bit big, but I dont think that is enough to fold.
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Old 11-21-2007, 12:35 AM
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Default Re: 1000NL, JJ on low card dry flop against chr

no way u can fold this. u can't give a guy credit for set or JJ+. Call and stick it in on a lot of turns.
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Old 11-21-2007, 12:39 AM
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Default Re: 1000NL, JJ on low card dry flop against chr

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no way u can fold this. u can't give a guy credit for set or JJ+. Call and stick it in on a lot of turns.


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Of course I can, but not only because he chr me on a blank flop.
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Old 11-21-2007, 12:47 AM
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Default Re: 1000NL, JJ on low card dry flop against chr

Really depends how aggro he is, usually i call and re-evaluate the turn with position as a default.
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Old 11-21-2007, 12:53 AM
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Default Re: 1000NL, JJ on low card dry flop against chr

Some v questionable advice in this thread, IMO.
Barring a solid read, folding is far too weak.

Either shove now, but I prefer calling and re-evaluating turn, getting it in more often than not. I think checking flop, as was suggested, is particularly bad.
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Old 11-21-2007, 12:56 AM
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Default Re: 1000NL, JJ on low card dry flop against chr

I don't think you can get a much better flop (without a J) for your hand. Since he called your raise. AA, KK, QQ would have probably reraise here. However, this is a tough spot. If you have a pretty good read on this guy and you think he would take this line with air then I would put him to the test. I would call here and then check/raise the turn. If he reraises on the turn then you have to reconsider how much he likes his hand. But if he is capable of firing 3 three wads with air then you need to test him.
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Old 11-21-2007, 01:09 AM
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Default Re: 1000NL, JJ on low card dry flop against chr

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I don't think you can get a much better flop (without a J) for your hand. Since he called your raise. AA, KK, QQ would have probably reraise here. However, this is a tough spot. If you have a pretty good read on this guy and you think he would take this line with air then I would put him to the test. I would call here and then check/raise the turn. If he reraises on the turn then you have to reconsider how much he likes his hand. But if he is capable of firing 3 three wads with air then you need to test him.

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Sorry, but it is impossible to chr him on turn [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 11-21-2007, 01:40 AM
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Default Re: 1000NL, JJ on low card dry flop against chr

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no way u can fold this. u can't give a guy credit for set or JJ+. Call and stick it in on a lot of turns.

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ya, i pretty much agree with this.
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