***Official 2007-2008 MLB Offseason Thread***

[wisehandpoker]

The Sox save 3 mil on the contract swap and there's more money going their way, so you can't really judge this deal until we find out a) how much money that is, and b) how they spend the $3M+

[wisehandpoker]

On another note, espn's rumor central says the Blue Jays have offered Scott Clement a minor league deal, but I'm having trouble figuring out who we're cutting from the staff as it is. Right now, we have;

Halladay
Burnett
McGowan
Marcum
Litsch

Frasor
Tallet
Jansen
Downs
Accardo
Ryan (mlb.com's ricciardi interview suggested he'd be ready for opening day)

That's a full staff, and then we still have;

Chacin
Wolfe (0.99 whip, 2.98 era in 38 appearances.)
Towers
Joe Kennedy

The fourteen position player spots seem to be pretty much done with a bench of Scutaro, Stairs, Lind, Adams and Thigpen/Fasano.

[g-bebe]

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On another note, espn's rumor central says the Blue Jays have offered Scott Clement a minor league deal, but I'm having trouble figuring out who we're cutting from the staff as it is. Right now, we have;

Halladay
Burnett
McGowan
Marcum
Litsch

Frasor
Tallet
Jansen
Downs
Accardo
Ryan (mlb.com's ricciardi interview suggested he'd be ready for opening day)

That's a full staff, and then we still have;

Chacin
Wolfe (0.99 whip, 2.98 era in 38 appearances.)
Towers
Joe Kennedy

The fourteen position player spots seem to be pretty much done with a bench of Scutaro, Stairs, Lind, Adams and Thigpen/Fasano.

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I dont' know Chacin's health status, but if he's healthy, he's better than McGowan or Litsch imo. but really, they just need to get rid of any connection to Towers.

btw, what's Thomas doing?

[centris]

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I dont' know Chacin's health status, but if he's healthy, he's better than McGowan

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What? In 2005 when chacin was healthy and when he put up good numbers K/9 5.3, BB/9 3.1, GB .41. This past year McGowan K/9 7.9, BB/9 3.3, GB .53.

McGowan is one of the top 10 starters in the AL, Chacin is replacement level. Chacin's 2005 ERA was a BABIP/LOB% fluke.

[wisehandpoker]

Jays starting lineup;

C Zaun
1B Overbay
2B Hill
SS MacDonald
3B Glaus
O Rios
O Wells
O Johnson
D Thomas

As was said, McGowan is a monster in waiting. Chacin vs Litsch might be arguable, though I'd give it to Litsch after his year last year.

[Zutroy]

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Jays starting lineup;

C Zaun
1B Overbay
2B Hill
SS MacDonald
3B Glaus
O Rios
O Wells
O Johnson
D Thomas

As was said, McGowan is a monster in waiting. Chacin vs Litsch might be arguable, though I'd give it to Litsch after his year last year.

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Litsch was insanely lucky last year but his minor leauge numbers were pretty good so he could get better. How long do you think before Synder/Lind replaces Reed Johnson? The guy's a "gamer" and his defense is good but he's only ever had one good offensive season (two if you count 03 when he was just about average).

[wisehandpoker]

There have been rumblings about Lind getting traded because of the lack of space and I have to think Snider's at least two years away (A ball in '07). If Lind sticks around, I have to think the job is his in '09 and maybe even later '08. Reed was great in '06 (.319/.390/.479) and awful in '07 (.236/.305/.320, due in large part to injuries) so it depends on which one shows up.