flush draw v. piejay 25/50 HU

[HEK]

against this type of player I'd check the turn.

[DLizzle]

I would check turn against a lot of people, and with your description of player it seems like betting the turn here is not good at all, I mean your description of him almost screams check the turn. As played, I fold, because I don't think the price is good enough to draw to a flush and i don't want to stack off on an A or Q. Also, I don't think there is any reason to believe that shoving is a good play.

[g-p]

what kind of player is piejay? im curious

[Ansky]

btw david, I can't for the life of me understand making HU reads like that based on stats... surely its more situational than just AF numbers.

[imabigdeal]

i'm 100% checking this turn

[dlpnyc21]

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btw david, I can't for the life of me understand making HU reads like that based on stats... surely its more situational than just AF numbers.

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i agree, my stats were merely to post that he's the kind of player who will chk/call flop with a much wider range than most hu opponents, meaning 1) he is more likely to peel super light and 2) he is also, paradoxically, more likely to chk-call with a big hand.

i think the problem i had in the hand is i couldn't really get a good feel for the estimation of his range. when i messed around with pokerstove my equity is actually pretty decent if i give him a wide range, i was just wondering if someone who has played a lot with him had a better idea of his range in these kinds of spots.

[ActionJeff]

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what kind of player is piejay? im curious

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the kind who opens 95% of hands in the small blind in 6 max and doesn't fold to raise/3bets of any size

[dlpnyc21]

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what kind of player is piejay? im curious

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the kind who opens 95% of hands in the small blind in 6 max and doesn't fold to raise/3bets of any size

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very accurate description, he opened 98% of hands on the btn in this match (which actually isn't that bad HU) miniraising many of them.

[irockhoess]

i have played piejay a ton hu at 25/50 on UB. playing him definitely will make you a better hu player because he plays so unorthodox.

On the turn, against him, i would never bet. well almost never, but definitely not here with these stacks. As played, i would call and probably call all pairing and spade rivers, but im not sure. If i remember right i think once he takes the lead he is pretty much going to be potting any river because thats just how he rolls.

id much rather check the turn, then call a pair or hit the flush because when you hit the running spades, you can rep a lot of missed diamonds and straight cards that piejay can talk himself into snapping you off with.

I'd never bluff this river as i mentioned above he loves to snap off a bet like that.

Also i dont know if the stats you gave are really high compared to other high stakes players (i dont use PAHud) but piejay is definitely one of the most aggressive players i have played hu at 25/50 or higher. What are like "normal" stats for hu players that arent too extreme?

[ekky]

isn't piejay kinda unique where his aggression ramps up remarkably from the flop to the river? most people tend to play flops/turns a lot more aggro then the river, but he tends to play the later streets much more aggro then the flop, albeit in my limited and most likely useless experience, so my initial reaction would be to call or stack off here, but much better players have disagreed so I'll defer to their judgement.