free will and god poll

[willie24]

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But it is completely irrational for theists to believe free will exists.


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are you sure? elaborate.
i don't follow- since, intuitively, the opposite seems true

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It's pretty simple really. In a universe with an omnipotent omniscient god, no other being can possibly have free will. This is completely obvious and I won't elaborate further.

There are a lot of things, such as morality, free will, purpose meaning, values, which are purely nonsensical in a universe with an omnipotent omniscient god. Atheists can legitimately claim these issues as there own.

Atheists should not let religious propaganda trick them into believing that they are supposed to believe what religious propaganda says atheists are supposed to believe.

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it is equally obvious that free will can't exist when there is no God.

if i claim that God exists, and that the "world" is just an arena for some kind of "will competition" between souls...what logic do you use to prove there can be no freewill? i would think the same logic could be used to prove there is no freewill in the absence of God.

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If you believe that, then you are obviously deeply influenced by religious propaganda, which is exactly the point I was making.

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i don't follow. how does the person being influenced by religious propoganda affect whether freewill can exist? it would appear you are arguing that God can't exist- which is a reasonable argument - but i don't know how you got to: if God exists, then freewill can't. if it's so obvious, just tell me.