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Old 11-18-2007, 10:08 PM
rzk rzk is offline
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about pf: did you see gehrig's post in the mid-high? he thinks pf is a worse mistake than flop - kind of surprising to me tbh.

also, oink, if you agree that we have serious rio here, why do you think we should peel against you given that we barely have a call assuming neutral implied odds?
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Old 11-18-2007, 10:42 PM
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RIO is more of an issue against a tighter range. I.e when drawing to a 2nd best hand a lot

Against me you should peel because my range is wide enough and RIO is less of an issue. I'd say positive implied vs me
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Old 11-18-2007, 10:53 PM
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about pf: did you see gehrig's post in the mid-high? he thinks pf is a worse mistake than flop - kind of surprising to me tbh.

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doesn't surprise me at all. For the pf decision you have one extra street to lose money in RIOs. I think it also matters that the pf decision is more expensive so any mistake we are making is multiplied by 3 (in a hand-wavey way at least [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img])


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also, oink, if you agree that we have serious rio here, why do you think we should peel against you given that we barely have a call assuming neutral implied odds?

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how did you come to this conclusion?
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Old 11-18-2007, 11:26 PM
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also, oink, if you agree that we have serious rio here, why do you think we should peel against you given that we barely have a call assuming neutral implied odds?

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how did you come to this conclusion?

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i just assumed the range that oink gives for which hero's equity is 18% is pretty much his range. or does he cap even lighter?
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Old 11-19-2007, 01:25 AM
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also, oink, if you agree that we have serious rio here, why do you think we should peel against you given that we barely have a call assuming neutral implied odds?

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how did you come to this conclusion?

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i just assumed the range that oink gives for which hero's equity is 18% is pretty much his range. or does he cap even lighter?

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Just to point out the obvious:
implied odds are only part of the equation. Folding the turn when we don't hit means we won't realize our full hot/cold equity from the flop. You really have to look at each different turn/river combination and assume a strategy (as you already well know).
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