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Old 11-18-2007, 10:39 PM
_dave_ _dave_ is offline
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Even selling food and drink in the same proximity as a poker game, ie, having a poker game in the back room of your bar, has been ruled illegal in a number of cases. Even though the purchase of said food and drink is completely voluntary, and you would never be asked to leave if you did not partake.

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Wow, that scuppers a lot of the potential ideas I was thinking about [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

I was just pondering the idea of free-to-play, but one could purchase "value-added" services if so desired. I guess that's a no-go now [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Looks like the tip-the-dealer model is the most legally viable view... which makes me think:

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It is a tough problem. How do you deal with the freeloaders? If they don't tip, and a large number won't, you can't kick them off. It is different in a B&M. There is a not so subtle expectation that you tip, and if you consistantly refuse, everyone around you will call you a jerk and worse. You can certainly get away with not tipping, but your B&M trip will not be a pleasant one.

On the internet, nobody cares if they are called a jerk, even if they can't turn off the chat. If they are getting a free ride, they could care less.


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Are you so sure?

What if people had a "rating" visible to other players, indicating how much of a baller/freeloader they were? What if requirements for the game were - not as touted - multiple / frequent name changes, but that you could only ever play under your *real*, verified name and location?

I'd imagine people would be far less apt to behave like an antisocial git if it was their real identity at stake [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

lol, just ideas.

dave.
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Old 11-19-2007, 01:38 AM
Grasshopp3r Grasshopp3r is offline
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Well, the cost of providing the service is incrementally low for each new table, so I don't see freeloaders as a problem.
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Old 11-19-2007, 08:34 PM
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Well, the cost of providing the service is incrementally low for each new table, so I don't see freeloaders as a problem.

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Yes but the first few are a real problem.

I may have a solution I'm working on, we'll see. I missed a call today with an update on the legal prospects.

But it really follows Tuff's dream of getting on-line US poker without trying to make a massive killing. Of course there will be a little profit but most of that is pretty much given away to attract the necessary parts.

If this flys thank Tuff for his dream and inspiration!

Imagine there's no UIGEA
It's easy if you try
No e-pass below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the poker
Playing for today

Imagine there's no countries laws
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to gain or fight for
And no rake too
Imagine all the people
Playing poker in peace

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will play as one

Imagine no affiliates
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or scandal
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one


Sorry John!

(Lennon)


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