stars $22 - fold/push bottom set

[miw210]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP3 (t2615)
CO (t4625)
Button (t2360)
Hero (t5404)
BB (t2545)
UTG (t6085)
UTG+1 (t3305)
MP1 (t3275)
MP2 (t6025)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t200</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Button calls t200, Hero calls t175, BB calls t150.

Flop: (t800) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t350</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t1350</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t2160</font>

Hero ?


I think the only person I'm really worried about here is Button. BB seems to be a loose bettor - maybe pair and/or str draw; UTG seems to have a big pair JJ+; button is kind of loose pf but seems decent. Seems like A4, 64, 55, 33 are all strong possibilities.

Do you ever fold this? Or is this a clear push?

PS
I don't know why I checked flop.

[brad2002tj]

I never fold this.

[BrandiFan]

opponents hold A5, QQ and TT in that order. Set is possible, straight is less likely. I'm shoving. I also like leading half pot on flop.

[Coz]

I really want to fold this and although it is a $22 dollar tourney I would probably fold. To be completly honest I think button has a set of fives or threes, and I wouldn't write off the possibility of the blind having a straight. Does button slowplay alot? I just can't see villian having AA or KK to often, you think we would have re-raised preflop, and with a raise and a re-raise infront of him I doubt he would do this with 66-99. JJ-QQ would have been an insta raise preflop. So he either slowplayed AA or KK which is unlikly or he flopped a higher set, alot more likly IMO. I am at school so I can't do the math but I think this is a hand we can get away with, whether, I am strong enough to muck it is really the question. Has anyone done the math, how do we look against ranges, I will come back to this hand when I get home.

[miw210]

No, I haven't seen Button slowplay anything. I had basically the same line of reasoning as you. I was feeling very beat by the time action came back to me.

[henrikjs]

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I never fold this.

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Agreed, this is a clear shove

[Dunkman]

Yeah you're beat sometimes, but I'm pretty much incapable of folding a set ever without some kind of amazing read and being super deep. Shove.

[BrandiFan]

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No, I haven't seen Button slowplay anything. I had basically the same line of reasoning as you. I was feeling very beat by the time action came back to me.

[/ QUOTE ]How many times have you seen him play AA/KK vs an early raiser? Unless you have played a ton of hands with the guy, you really shouldn't assume he always 3 bets big pairs...