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1/2: QK makes trips
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Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players LeggoPoker Hand History Converter BTN: $45 Hero (SB): $195 BB: $66.85 UTG: $782.90 UTG+1: $332.65 MP1: $198 MP2: $192 CO: $258.70 Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB) 2 folds, <font color="red">MP1 raises to $4</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls $3, BB calls $2 Flop: ($12) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players) <font color="red">Hero bets $12</font>, BB folds, MP1 calls $12 Turn: ($36) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">Hero bets $28</font>, MP1 calls $28 River: ($92) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">Hero bets $48</font>, <font color="red">MP1 raises to $154 and is All-In</font>, Hero folds Results: $188 Pot ($3 Rake) MP1 mucked and WON $185 (+$93 NET) Thoughts on river b/f. Surely he never raises a hand that we beat and we want value from AA KK QT. Hows my thinking here? |
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Re: 1/2: QK makes trips
im an idiot, and didnt see it was a minraise.
line looks fine up to river...i think i c/c instead. our hand seems like a 2streets of betting value (our own), and we already did 2. i think enough bluff/bets the river for us to b +EV c/c |
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Re: 1/2: QK makes trips
Preflop is only a minraise so i think the call is fine.
My reasoning for the flop donk is twofold: I charge draws and can possibly rep a draw and get raised. |
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Re: 1/2: QK makes trips
fixxed my post. my dumbass thought it was 100NL
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Re: 1/2: QK makes trips
I'm pretty sure lead lead lead is correct here. Gives you a chance to three-street AA. On the river, I know this assh*le made Jacks full but idk if I can fold with half my stack in the middle.
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Re: 1/2: QK makes trips
c/c river
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Re: 1/2: QK makes trips
Why are we c/cing river? We totally miss value from all AA/KK/TT combos and gain no extra value from weaker Queens. I don't think he shows up with missed spades here unless he's bad. He did call two PSBs on a paired board afterall. He never has air here either. So where is the value in c/cing other than that it makes our decision process easier?
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Re: 1/2: QK makes trips
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Why are we c/cing river? We totally miss value from all AA/KK/TT combos and gain no extra value from weaker Queens. I don't think he shows up with missed spades here unless he's bad. He did call two PSBs on a paired board afterall. He never has air here either. So where is the value in c/cing other than that it makes our decision process easier? [/ QUOTE ] Because the weighted extra value (i.e. taking into account the likelihood of each holding) we would gain Vs AA/KK/TT is less than the expense we incur Vs a better hand [that will most likely raise us] + the value from an induced missed fush bluff. Also, there are no weaker queens. Virtually all other queens beat us. |
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Re: 1/2: QK makes trips
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] Why are we c/cing river? We totally miss value from all AA/KK/TT combos and gain no extra value from weaker Queens. I don't think he shows up with missed spades here unless he's bad. He did call two PSBs on a paired board afterall. He never has air here either. So where is the value in c/cing other than that it makes our decision process easier? [/ QUOTE ] Because the weighted extra value (i.e. taking into account the likelihood of each holding) we would gain Vs AA/KK/TT is less than the expense we incur Vs a better hand [that will most likely raise us] + the value from an induced missed fush bluff. Also, there are no weaker queens. Virtually all other queens beat us. [/ QUOTE ] its a preflop minraise, it could be QT, Q9 it looks like the guy hit JJ honestly |
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Re: 1/2: QK makes trips
It could be 72 offsuit too, but I doubt it.
I think AQ/QJ are significantly more likely here than QT and less. |
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