Bottom set flop action deep 400nl

[aislephive]

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Villain is much more likely to make a mistake if we just call the flop than he will if we 3bet, call plz.

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only w/ his air hands, board is drawy enough to 3b

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If he has a flush draw, we're just letting him off the hook by 3betting. 200bbs deep he isn't shoving over our flop 3bet with many draws unless he is insane. $350-400 isn't giving anybody the illusion of fold equity, and if you make it less he's priced in to call with all of his draws but will easily get rid of his bluffs and the off chance he has an AQ type hand.

The more I think about this hand the more I like calling.

[Nielsio]

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Villain is much more likely to make a mistake if we just call the flop than he will if we 3bet, call plz.

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only w/ his air hands, board is drawy enough to 3b

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If he has a flush draw, we're just letting him off the hook by 3betting. 200bbs deep he isn't shoving over our flop 3bet with many draws unless he is insane. $350-400 isn't giving anybody the illusion of fold equity, and if you make it less he's priced in to call with all of his draws but will easily get rid of his bluffs and the off chance he has an AQ type hand.

The more I think about this hand the more I like calling.

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I was thinking the same.

[Unknown Soldier]

there are a decent amount of big draws + villain would be less likely to raise a worse draw this deep

[Nielsio]

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there are a decent amount of big draws + villain would be less likely to raise a worse draw this deep

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This is true also.

What do we make of his big c/r?

[Yeti]

calllll

[Paul B.]

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calllll

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[showtime808]

im a total donk, but id think he's doing that with A8 hh, and id probably call and fold to another heart, if not, GET IT IN whenever you can on t or rv

[aislephive]

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there are a decent amount of big draws + villain would be less likely to raise a worse draw this deep

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I don't think many draws but the NFD can really be considered big. OESD + FD isn't really worth 200bbs here for villain. He is probably priced in to calling though, which isn't a good thing.

How likely villain is to raise various weakish draws like an OESD or bare medium/weak FD is pretty player dependent.

Also, our hand looks exactly like either top pair or a draw if we call, and villain probably expects us to fold a lot of our range to a turn bet. Of those big draws, a lot of them will commit on a blank turn where our equity is much greater. FWIW, I would likely fold to a big turn bet if the flush completes.

This is all assuming villain is a good solid tag who can read hands and situations well, of course.

[Unknown Soldier]

i see what you're saying. i guess the answer is that it depends. There will be some boards where i'll be more inclined to call with a set, and some boards where i'll be more inclined to 3b. This board is the latter, but i can def see calling. I don't think there is a default play here and one might not necessarily be better then the other.

[rand]

1. who is villain?

2. if hes aggro just call, if he is super aggro or only has one bullet and isnt that aggro 3bet small

...fwiw just calling is prolly my standard move here