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Old 11-09-2007, 08:16 PM
Xanthro Xanthro is offline
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Default Re: What happen to PokerStars? Massive Fish invasion?

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I've started playing a bit again this week...does this mean I'm fishy [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Was there something in particular that made you come back? That could be drawing other people in with money to throw away.
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Old 11-09-2007, 08:18 PM
Berge20 Berge20 is offline
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Default Re: What happen to PokerStars? Massive Fish invasion?

Nothing specific for me--I think the new deposit thing is part of it. Potentially the weather changes in some of the US might too (getting colder and wintery, so less outside activities) and ESPN always seems to have something on with poker these days.
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Old 11-09-2007, 08:42 PM
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Default Re: What happen to PokerStars? Massive Fish invasion?

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Player pushing A7o over a 2% preflop raiser.

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We might've seen the same hand. I saw that play today. Preflop raiser had KK. A7 pushed all in on a flop of T87. Yay river seven!!

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Horrible players are to be found at NL25.

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I play 25NL and I know what people mean when they say that all of the 25NLers are horrible--I readily admit that I am--but STILL . . . there HAS been a huge difference in the player quality down there. I mean, some are horrible because they're nits, slowly bleeding their blinds away, getting pushed around by good players, and folding everything except the nuts. They struggle, but at least they can read the board. Recently there seems to have been an influx of raging doofuses, pushing all in with the ass end of a straight on a flush board.
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Old 11-09-2007, 08:48 PM
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Default Re: What happen to PokerStars? Massive Fish invasion?

If you have been playing @ Stars lately and did not notice that the level of play has gotten softer then you have a problem because it has been very obv.; and not just @NL25.
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Old 11-09-2007, 11:46 PM
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Default Re: What happen to PokerStars? Massive Fish invasion?

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AJ calling down 2/3 – pot sized bets on a TT4A2 board

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Is this really noteworthy? This happens at every single level.
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Old 11-10-2007, 01:48 AM
Xanthro Xanthro is offline
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Default Re: What happen to PokerStars? Massive Fish invasion?

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AJ calling down 2/3 – pot sized bets on a TT4A2 board

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Is this really noteworthy? This happens at every single level.

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Yes, it happens often at most levels, it used to not happen every couple of orbits.

The games have gotten seriously softer, and transparent hands get called down for large amounts.

Often I needed someone to make bad calls like the above to simply remain a small winning player, but now I'm up 4 buy ins in the past 1,000 hands, and 2 of those are in the past 130 hands.

After posting this I won a buy in waiting to go to dinner. That could have happened a month or so ago, but it wasn't nearly as common as it seems right now.
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Old 11-10-2007, 11:17 AM
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Default Re: What happen to PokerStars? Massive Fish invasion?

have to say i've noticed a lot more fish than usual at 50 and 100 nl this week. Seems like every time i have a hand some1 is all in with something terrible. I keep having to type "totally overcommitted oop w/ TPNK" in the player notes!
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Old 11-10-2007, 11:38 AM
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Default Re: What happen to PokerStars? Massive Fish invasion?

Good to hear, I was going to play some NL25 there tonight and this really gets me in the mood to play [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Any idea how long it takes to get 500 FPP's at NL25?
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Old 11-10-2007, 12:31 PM
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Default Re: What happen to PokerStars? Massive Fish invasion?

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Any idea how long it takes to get 500 FPP's at NL25?

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I believe it works out to an average of one FPP per FR orbit at 25NL. (can't find the link that was posted in the zoo a while ago that gave the info)
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Old 11-16-2007, 12:35 PM
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Default Re: What happen to PokerStars? Massive Fish invasion?

It's not a big surprise. In the last month or so during prime time weeknights the lobby is always showing over 100,000 players, sometimes upwards of 120. A few months ago it was around 80-90 K during prime time. So there seems to be around 25 K new players from somewhere.

My theory is that new players as a group tend to be worse than existing players as a group so adding around 30% new players has made it easier for the existing players. At least until the new players bust or adapt and start playing better. Let's hope the number of players continues to increase.
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