STTF SNG->cash thread

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No reads. Is this how I should play this?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($38.45)
Hero ($58)
CO ($136.20)
Button ($49.75)
SB ($96.95)
BB ($94.25)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $2.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG folds.

Flop: ($6.25) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $9</font>, Hero calls $4.50.

Turn: ($24.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $15</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $46.5</font>

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Without reads I think I would just call him down.

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yea, your rasie is probably only getting called if you're beat.

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nahhh ive never seen QJ fold here. QK also never folds. Neither does a badly played JT.

With no reads, i think you played it fine.

[Josem]

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nahhh ive never seen QJ fold here. QK also never folds. Neither does a badly played JT.


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well, if they fold, you're never going to see their hand

[microbet]

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nahhh ive never seen QJ fold here. QK also never folds. Neither does a badly played JT.


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well, if they fold, you're never going to see their hand

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Superuser. You of all people should know that.

[Josem]

lol. It just reminded me of the last time I played cash at the Sydney Casino (worst casino for poker ever - you win $1500 and you still feel ripped off) and a muppet sitting next to me.

Board was paired, and after he folded (leaving me to win the pot without showdown) he asked what I had. I said, "Quads, of course."

He then told me I was lying, because "Every time I've seen someone have quads they showed it."

[dipstikdave]

villain is 22/10/6 over 45 hands

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($46.45)
Button ($46.65)
SB ($30.30)
Hero ($46.45)
UTG ($25)
MP ($28.40)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3.75</font>, CO calls $2.75.

Flop: ($7.60) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $12</font>, Hero times out

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dip,

dont reraise AJ OOP that deep against that guy.

call PF.

As played, i probably call the raise and likely fold to anything else he does.

[Dr_Jeckyl_00]

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villain is 22/10/6 over 45 hands

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($46.45)
Button ($46.65)
SB ($30.30)
Hero ($46.45)
UTG ($25)
MP ($28.40)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3.75</font>, CO calls $2.75.

Flop: ($7.60) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $12</font>, Hero times out

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Wow, interesting hand. I am sure I would have gone broke on this hand (as I often do w/ 2 pr), villain could have so many better hands. Sometimes I don't mind timing out [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

[dipstikdave]

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dip,

dont reraise AJ OOP that deep against that guy.

call PF.



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can you please elaborate? i thought this was a pretty standard 3bet spot.

[futuredoc85]

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dip,

dont reraise AJ OOP that deep against that guy.

call PF.



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can you please elaborate? i thought this was a pretty standard 3bet spot.

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the deeper you are, the less value you get from marginal 3-bets. i.e. w/ 100bbs you can 3-bet here and stack happily on a J hi flop and usually get good value on an A hi flop as well. 200bbs deep your reverse implied odds are just obscene here since almost no one is stacking off w/o TPTK or an overpair at the very least this deep.

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dip,

dont reraise AJ OOP that deep against that guy.

call PF.



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can you please elaborate? i thought this was a pretty standard 3bet spot.

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the deeper you are, the less value you get from marginal 3-bets. i.e. w/ 100bbs you can 3-bet here and stack happily on a J hi flop and usually get good value on an A hi flop as well. 200bbs deep your reverse implied odds are just obscene here since almost no one is stacking off w/o TPTK or an overpair at the very least this deep.

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yea, basically.

Also, against a 31/10 or whatever he was, even 100BB deep you have waaaay more value by calling PF. You're folding out all worse A's and Js when you reraise and hes calling with lots of things that dominate you.

By calling, you force him to stay in with weaker As and no one ever folds top pair, so you can make lots of monies.

And don't be afraid to c/r bluff some random low flops. He doesnt hit them very often and you pick up a lot of pots very easily.