1/2 halp, all streets

NMcNasty · #1 11-06-2007, 02:09 PM

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How many outs do you think he has? He's getting 5.5:1 so he needs like 8ish outs. Give 1.5 for bdf, 1 for bds, and 1.5 for the overcard and you have a whole 4...

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You're discounting a little too harshly and completely ignoring implied odds. A queen is worth more than 1.5 and a 6 is worth a little something and I think I can average at least 1.5 BB on turn and river, because like I said before board is so drawy he can't be folding much.

NMcNasty · #2 11-06-2007, 02:11 PM

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How many outs do you think he has? He's getting 5.5:1 so he needs like 8ish outs. Give 1.5 for bdf, 1 for bds, and 1.5 for the overcard and you have a whole 4...

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You're discounting a little too harshly and completely ignoring implied odds. A queen is worth more than 1.5 and a 6 is worth a little something and I think I can average at least 1.5 BB on turn and river, because like I said before board is so drawy he can't be folding much.

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I still would be willing to accept that its a fold but its pretty close.

Mr.Busto · #3 11-17-2007, 10:32 PM

no reason to peel on this flop for sure. No redraw is getting the odds or payout it deserves. Just fold.
what happened at the river is why you fold flop
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mtgordon · #4 11-07-2007, 04:06 PM

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How many outs do you think he has? He's getting 5.5:1 so he needs like 8ish outs. Give 1.5 for bdf, 1 for bds, and 1.5 for the overcard and you have a whole 4...

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You're discounting a little too harshly and completely ignoring implied odds. A queen is worth more than 1.5 and a 6 is worth a little something and I think I can average at least 1.5 BB on turn and river, because like I said before board is so drawy he can't be folding much.

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If you're doing implied odds don't forget your reverse implied odds as well. This is a good example of of hitting one of your outs only to still lose 2bb.