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Re: Baseball managers are vastly overrated
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[ QUOTE ] we turn to Terry Francona [/ QUOTE ] Isn't it amazing how these guys suddenly develop management skills once they are given teams with all the pieces in place? I mean when Francona was "Francoma" with the Phillies, where were his sick management skills that are now supposedly worth $5 million per? [/ QUOTE ] Ortiz was not worth nearly what he is on the Red Sox as he was on the Twins. Do you see? Ok, I'll explain: People learn, improve, find different environments which lend to better success. Ok I get your point to the extent that yes, throw Torre on the Royals and he'll still having a losing record...probably. Winning baseball is part management, part players (granted a much larger part players). Let me give you an example. If I am driving a car and you are in the backseat, it's easy to criticize me (driving too fast or swerving or whatever), but you don't notice all the little things I am doing- constantly checking my speed, my blind spots, blocking the sun from my eyes, staring at the road constantly)...you are like the backseat driver of a baseball team, you just don't know what is involved. |
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Re: Baseball managers are vastly overrated
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] we turn to Terry Francona [/ QUOTE ] Isn't it amazing how these guys suddenly develop management skills once they are given teams with all the pieces in place? I mean when Francona was "Francoma" with the Phillies, where were his sick management skills that are now supposedly worth $5 million per? [/ QUOTE ] Ortiz was not worth nearly what he is on the Red Sox as he was on the Twins. Do you see? Ok, I'll explain: People learn, improve, find different environments which lend to better success. Ok I get your point to the extent that yes, throw Torre on the Royals and he'll still having a losing record...probably. Winning baseball is part management, part players (granted a much larger part players). Let me give you an example. If I am driving a car and you are in the backseat, it's easy to criticize me (driving too fast or swerving or whatever), but you don't notice all the little things I am doing- constantly checking my speed, my blind spots, blocking the sun from my eyes, staring at the road constantly)...you are like the backseat driver of a baseball team, you just don't know what is involved. [/ QUOTE ] Lets imagine a hypothetical. What if there was a job where there really WASNT much going on behind the scenes, what you saw was pretty much all there was to it. Then lets pretend someone started a thread talking about how overrated the people doing that job were. Would you come into that thread and post about how there was all this stuff going on behind closed doors and behind the scenes that all of us backseat drivers just werent privy to? Yes, of course you would. You dont actually KNOW that all this stuff is happening, you are just saying its possible that it could be. Well, thats not that useful. How can we tell the difference between a subtly complicated job like managing a baseball team and a superficially obviously simple job? You are going to call us backseat drivers no matter what, right? |
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Re: Baseball managers are vastly overrated
PR,
Does that mean Ron Gardenheire should get fired for wasting such a talent? Or that Grady Little should be managing somewhere for developing him? Also I love that you right a paragraph illustrating the term "back seat driver". I would have preferred this. Imagine you are a fan of a football team. Football games are traditionally played on Sundays. The Quarterback is the most important football player and is crucial to the team winning. Often times QB's lose games because of their play on Sunday. Now imagine on Monday you criticize the QB for his play the previous day. You would be a Monday Morning QB, but I have news for you bucko when the game is being played on Sunday and DLinemen are running at you and you have one second to throw a ball at a perfect spot just on time it is a lot harder to do. |
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