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Re: Hand 1: 100/200 live vs TheTakeover
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i dunno if u have to drag shania into it, i just think its the best play for anyone that isnt underrolled. he will fold a ton [/ QUOTE ] A lot of the hands that he folds are behind and drawing very slim vs our hand. There isn't much need to fold them out. I also think there's a very decent chance he's going for a c/r with a hand like 44 or JT or a c/c with AcXc. What better hands are we trying folding out? KQ, K4 and Q4. AT maybe? Can't we fold most of those out with a river bet and not risk being blown off our big draw? [ QUOTE ] and if the clubs get there he might even call lighter not believing u would pot turn with a flushdraw and not believing u would shove river with the broadway if the flush gets there. [/ QUOTE ] The only bluff we can have if we pot turn and shove a club river is TP turned into a bluff, right? All that said, betting the turn is a good play and makes you very annoying to play against, but I think I like a check a little better. |
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Re: Hand 1: 100/200 live vs TheTakeover
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live 25/50 game in NYC...this hand is playing as 25-50-100-200...villian in this hand is Nick Schulman...i generally think Nick is the best player in the game...he's been playing solid in a crazy game...i have 42k and villain covers... after the two straddles i am UTG with KcJc and limp for 200...couple of callers behind me, small blind calls, and Nick calls from one of the straddles...5 to the flop (~1100) flop Kd Qc 4c... checked to me and i bet 1k...1 caller behind me...and then Nick check raises to 4k...who calls here and who reraises here? i choose to call and the other caller folds... (~10,100) turn is As...Nick checks and i decide to check (people bet here?) river Kh...nick leads for 9k...whats the play here? is the hand different if Nick leads the turn, and then bets river from our perspective? all comments welcome...obviously a lot has to do with my read on Nick but still would like to see how people would play the hand. I didnt raise preflop because it owuld not have thinned the field any the way the game was playing... [/ QUOTE ] weird, nick made such a small cr on flop (that's the only part of the hand I really don't like). i prolly cawl b/c he cold have missed clubs a large % of the time and views the A as a bad card for you. furthermore, he thinks that you probably would have bet a hand >2p differently, meaning you would have either a) reraised his flop cr, b) bet the turn. Thus, your hand looks pretty weak, making it a MT "i cawl." |
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Re: Hand 1: 100/200 live vs TheTakeover
i would call, i dont think he check raises with JTo on the flop. i think he has AcXc here over 50% of the time.
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Re: Hand 1: 100/200 live vs TheTakeover
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i would call, i dont think he check raises with JTo on the flop. i think he has AcXc here over 50% of the time. [/ QUOTE ] what hands is he expecting to get value from on the river with his bet then? |
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Re: Hand 1: 100/200 live vs TheTakeover
he doesn't have to be betting for value, he knows its a tough board for OP to call, OP would need at minimum a K 10 to call
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Re: Hand 1: 100/200 live vs TheTakeover
Is this like KQ 70% of the time?
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Re: Hand 1: 100/200 live vs TheTakeover
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Is this like KQ 70% of the time? [/ QUOTE ] first thing i thought of fwiw i think he should check the river with KQ tho, buw what do i know |
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Re: Hand 1: 100/200 live vs TheTakeover
I'd fold the river and I would have played the hand the same way you did. I also agree this is exactly KQ a lot.
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Re: Hand 1: 100/200 live vs TheTakeover
given your style of play, I sorta like a flop 3 bet because I think nick will 4-bet all in lighter than most here....
I think turn check is no brainer here, and I'd fold the river. He's rarely going to try to bluff you in this game. |
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Re: Hand 1: 100/200 live vs TheTakeover
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given your style of play, I sorta like a flop 3 bet because I think nick will 4-bet all in lighter than most here.... [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, I kinda want to also. I kept thinking 'I wish you raised this preflop so that we can get it in here' We are ahead of a lot of draws that might possibly get it in. Getting all-in v Tc8c would be fun. |
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