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Old 10-30-2007, 10:24 AM
bsball8806 bsball8806 is offline
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Default Re: KK in RR Pot 177BB\'s Deep

bets..? Please don't tell me you're afraid of AA again here. He could easily have 10's-QQ. Plus, don't you think AA raises you on this wet flop, just like a set would?

I bet this turn, expecting him to have an overpair.
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Old 10-30-2007, 10:29 AM
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Default Re: KK in RR Pot 177BB\'s Deep

I don't expect AA at all.

I don't expect QQ either very often, altho it can be a small part of his range.
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Old 10-30-2007, 10:31 AM
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Default Re: KK in RR Pot 177BB\'s Deep

so what do you think he has, then? A five would be so random. I still think JJ and 10 10 (possibly even 99) make the most sense. If he has a made straight or a set, he played this so stupid
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Old 10-30-2007, 10:38 AM
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Default Re: KK in RR Pot 177BB\'s Deep

Agreed - I am not worried about the straight either.

Based on preflop/Flop action I estimate 77-JJ, maybe QQ.

Since he has shown postflop restraint in the past and only shown down winning hands I'm wondering if I bet the Turn do I fold out all worse hands (99-JJ) and get called only by sets (77/88)?

To me it seems like my hand is pretty obviously a big pair or AK, right?

edit: I have $61.75 left, pot = $50.25. If you advocate a Turn bet what size do you make it?
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Old 10-30-2007, 10:59 AM
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Default Re: KK in RR Pot 177BB\'s Deep

i think villians 3 betting range here is very important. if you have seen him 3 bet much i c/f here as i think his range is heavily smaller sc's or low pairs, pretty much all of which have you crushed or drawing slim. if you think he can play 1010 or jj or perhaps qq this way i would take the stack a donk line. i think betting this turn is bad.
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Old 10-30-2007, 12:25 PM
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Default Re: KK in RR Pot 177BB\'s Deep

Hero bets $25 and check calls reasonable river.
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Old 10-30-2007, 12:34 PM
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Default Re: KK in RR Pot 177BB\'s Deep

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Hero bets $25 and check calls reasonable river.

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So were not calling any heart? and allow villian to bluff a blank?

$25, is about half the remaining stack - is there are agrument for just getting the chips in on the Turn?

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Old 10-30-2007, 12:45 PM
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Default Re: KK in RR Pot 177BB\'s Deep

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Hero bets $25 and check calls reasonable river.

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So were not calling any heart? and allow villian to bluff a blank?

$25, is about half the remaining stack - is there are agrument for just getting the chips in on the Turn?

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Ops, sorry, for some reason I thought there was 3 hearts on the board already... [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

I don't believe he's on a draw or has AA, betting $25 is better because he may call making it easier for us to get all our chips in (modifying our river play from my last post... [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] ).
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