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Old 10-28-2007, 02:16 PM
Hipsdontlie69 Hipsdontlie69 is offline
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Default Re: did i screw up on every street?

I dont understand why we didn't raise JJ preflop, I would understand it if u didn't raise pocket 8's and below but pocket J's, we got to isolate baby.
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Old 10-28-2007, 10:42 PM
John Ryan John Ryan is offline
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Default Re: did i screw up on every street?

The pf no-raise has gotten so much attention we haven't even gotten to the amusing flop play. JJ + 468 rainbow = something fishy every time. I'm so scared of the 468 flop I auto fold on principal. This line is my favorite.

"It smells like two pair. So I just call."

Looking at the overall line is hilarious. Call, Call, Call, Fold. Come play in my game please.
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:18 AM
Munchkin Mayor Munchkin Mayor is offline
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Okay, so we all agree I made the right play on the river? [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:45 AM
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Okay, so we all agree I made the right play on the river? [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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LOL. I give you a lot of credit for takiing all the heat so far and coming back with a joke.

PF you have to raise because you're going to have at least 4 players and almost certainly more anyway. Take a shot at buying the button and limiting the field to 3. If you fail you still have the best hand (most likely) and have forced people to pay double for their crap.

On the flop, given your pre-flop limp, BB can have anything for his bet (including any gutshot, any pair, and/or any two overcards, etc.) You must raise to get overcards and any other gutshots to fold. You may also fold out a pair. I would raise BB's bet had I raised pre-flop also. You still could have AK/AQ/AJ and BB could still be betting with a pair.

On the turn, either raise or fold. At this point if BB is betting with a K on board and there are callers I would let it go.

The river was well played.
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:20 PM
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Okay, so we all agree I made the right play on the river? [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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I think the river fold is fine, but raising Billy's river bet assuming the other guy folds is really bad. He is not stupid, i.e. he would not bet a counterfeited 2 pair and then pay of your raise so there is no value in it. The place to raise was pf, on the flop or on the turn.
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Old 10-28-2007, 02:13 PM
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One other thing surfdoc: Are there really players like this in the 30 game at CP?
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Old 10-28-2007, 03:19 PM
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One other thing surfdoc: Are there really players like this in the 30 game at CP?

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I haven't played that game but I am still certain the answer is yes. I am pretty sure I have told you this many times but maybe we can do it publicly once. Don't assume that players in bigger games are better players or think more deeply about the game. There are plenty of times where you could rack up from a 4/8 game and walk across the casino to find a softer spot in the 40/80.
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Old 10-28-2007, 03:27 PM
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One other thing surfdoc: Are there really players like this in the 30 game at CP?

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I haven't played that game but I am still certain the answer is yes. I am pretty sure I have told you this many times but maybe we can do it publicly once. Don't assume that players in bigger games are better players or think more deeply about the game. There are plenty of times where you could rack up from a 4/8 game and walk across the casino to find a softer spot in the 40/80.

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Old 10-28-2007, 03:34 PM
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So I decide to simply call...


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Old 10-29-2007, 02:31 PM
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So I decide to simply call...


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This is not a fair comparison. Gary deserves better.
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