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Re: stupid preflop spot
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It's a terp. [/ QUOTE ] yeah i figured this was a pretty easy muck, but i'm plenty likely to be holding decent pairs and AK here, so i was more interested in what y'all do with them. also, who flats KK+? who 4bets? |
#12
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Re: stupid preflop spot
I'd honestly really want to muck AK here preflop...I just dont think a guy this passive pre is limp/raising AQ- or even AK.
With KK+ I make it like 260. |
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Re: stupid preflop spot
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[ QUOTE ] While I'd love to have somthing more insightful to say, I'd also call pretty much any PP here as you certainly have odds to setmine. I feel like captain obvious but those are my thoughts. [/ QUOTE ]$63 to win $635 does not equal odds to setmine [/ QUOTE ] 10X+ against what we've pretty much determined to be AA KK from a donk who stacks off every time? Amihigh? |
#14
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Re: stupid preflop spot
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I'd honestly really want to muck AK here preflop...I just dont think a guy this passive pre is limp/raising AQ- or even AK. With KK+ I make it like 260. [/ QUOTE ] i think his range is wider than this, i see these guys doing this move with like 77 and KQ a lot because they get tired of being iso-raised. |
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Re: stupid preflop spot
fold this. i mean he's raising 6% of his hands so just look for a better spot.
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Re: stupid preflop spot
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[ QUOTE ] I'd honestly really want to muck AK here preflop...I just dont think a guy this passive pre is limp/raising AQ- or even AK. With KK+ I make it like 260. [/ QUOTE ] i think his range is wider than this, i see these guys doing this move with like 77 and KQ a lot because they get tired of being iso-raised. [/ QUOTE ]The "read" is that he hasnt been paying attention to it and is continuously limp/calling a lot...He's going to have to proove to me that his range is wider before I fork over $635 to him on an Axx board. |
#17
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Re: stupid preflop spot
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] While I'd love to have somthing more insightful to say, I'd also call pretty much any PP here as you certainly have odds to setmine. I feel like captain obvious but those are my thoughts. [/ QUOTE ]$63 to win $635 does not equal odds to setmine [/ QUOTE ] 10X+ against what we've pretty much determined to be AA KK from a donk who stacks off every time? Amihigh? [/ QUOTE ]What about the times he flops a set too? Or when he has QQ/KK and an A comes on the flop...or when he has AA and the flop is KKset and he isnt willing to get it in. What happens when the board is 789T? There is a really good post about this that Im sure somebody can link for you...you need 18+:1 odds to have "real" set odds. |
#18
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Re: stupid preflop spot
casper i think that applied more to tags with wide 3bet ranges, or ust semi decent opponents with wide enough ranges like TT+ AQ+. either this guy has KK+ and its a call or he has a wide enough range to call i think, its not like hes going to outplay us postflop.
EDIT: it woudl be a call with 99 is what i meant. i think its a fold as played, but woudlnt be surprised if he didnt have the goods here. |
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Re: stupid preflop spot
dear god fold terp, I'm not backing you if you have to ask questions like this! (and theres no diff, but I'd still consider calling QQ cuz I'm a fish)
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#20
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Re: stupid preflop spot
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dear god fold terp, I'm not backing you if you have to ask questions like this! (and theres no diff, but I'd still consider calling QQ cuz I'm a fish) [/ QUOTE ]can I get a backing lil sweetheart? |
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