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Old 10-24-2007, 11:20 PM
CalledDownLight CalledDownLight is offline
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Default Re: 400: Sometimes I Just Say \"Oh Well\"

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fold.

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lol, he's a donkament player and a good one. Overpairs are the nuts for these guys. I'm sure he's got a pretty big range here including all kinds of pair+oesd hands, 2 pair, and even on occasion a complete bluff.
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Old 10-25-2007, 03:37 AM
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Default Re: 400: Sometimes I Just Say \"Oh Well\"

lol

McShove is very good and is [censored] around with you w/ the ensuing chat. He knows its an easy call and hes probably just trying to make you think hes a nit so you'll fold more to him later.

Also, he is not "just a donkament player". I'd bet that he is better than the majority of us.
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Old 10-25-2007, 05:47 AM
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Default Re: 400: Sometimes I Just Say \"Oh Well\"

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fold.

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lol, he's a donkament player and a good one. Overpairs are the nuts for these guys. I'm sure he's got a pretty big range here including all kinds of pair+oesd hands, 2 pair, and even on occasion a complete bluff.

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mcshove is one of the best MSNL players online IMO and this is an easy call
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Old 10-24-2007, 06:28 PM
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Default Re: 400: Sometimes I Just Say \"Oh Well\"

Seems to be an idiot...

Really, can't see how you can lay that one down and wouldn't have seen J9s in his PF range from UTG. TT or 88 maybe...
I really understant you had a bad feeling here, but I guess you see AA,KK stuff much more often here than flopped miracle straights you really can't put people on.
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Old 10-24-2007, 07:14 PM
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Default Re: 400: Sometimes I Just Say \"Oh Well\"

Shrug. Annoying but if you're gonna fold there you might as well fold everything but aces preflop and open shove those to be sure you get it in good.
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Old 10-24-2007, 07:28 PM
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I shove and he instacalls with his J9s and it holds up.

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3bet him more often now, as his UTG range is a bit wider than your average 18/12.
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Old 10-24-2007, 07:36 PM
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Default Re: 400: Sometimes I Just Say \"Oh Well\"

He did this same sort of move on me the other day with A-k! and got it in when I shoved. I 3 bet him pre and he led into me on the flop I pushed for like 75$ more and he called with A high. Just from playing that session with hime the other night he seemed like a decent player but I saw him make moves where he got allot of his stack into the pot being an aggro tard then making it correct for him to call when he was obviously behind. I had him at like 22/16 or aome thing over like 5-700 hands
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Old 10-24-2007, 07:34 PM
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Shrug. Annoying but if you're gonna fold there you might as well fold everything but aces preflop and open shove those to be sure you get it in good.

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this strat seems pretty unexploitable imo
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Old 10-24-2007, 08:48 PM
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standard cooler, more important question, does anyone like a call on the 3 bet?
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Old 10-24-2007, 08:52 PM
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standard cooler, more important question, does anyone like a call on the 3 bet?

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I strongly considered that. The reason I didn't here is there are quite a few scare cards where he might not get it in on the turn.

I see what you're saying tho in that if I push he may fold a big pp. Whereas, if I call, he probably just pushes it into me on a blank turn.
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