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Re: Help settle a debate: this guy\'s bluff good or bad?
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10/20 NL. I've been aggressive preflop but not out of line and haven't been caught doing crazy [censored] yet, but definitely reraising more than most. Anyway, villain raises to 70 on the CO, I make it 250 w/xx from SB, he calls with TT. Flop(510): 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] I bet 300, he calls Turn (1110): J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] I check, he checks. River (1110): 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] I bet 760, he insta jams for 900 more. Anyone like this push by him? Also, if you're in my shoes and there are no real reads either way what's your minimum hand to bet this river with? [/ QUOTE ] i think the minimum hand i bet this river with is 6-7 or J-9, but i wouldnt check the turn with either hand. your hand looks a lot like a set or 8-8 to me, and i wouldnt expect you to fold any of those hand on the river getting slightly better than 3-1 to call, so meh, this is a [censored] spot to bluff. i dont think i'd like it even if he shoved for $1400 more given the action. your line looks too strong to bet the flop check the turn and then v-bet the river, but then again i have no idea how you play over pairs in this spot. just saying villains shove is probably into a strong part of your range here. D-. -Tex |
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Re: Help settle a debate: this guy\'s bluff good or bad?
i like the bluff a lot.
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Re: Help settle a debate: this guy\'s bluff good or bad?
man, i think this is terrible bluff by him
what the HELL Are you ever betting on the river that you check the turn with that does not start with st and end right raight? |
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man, i think this is terrible bluff by him what the HELL Are you ever betting on the river that you check the turn with that does not start with st and end right raight? [/ QUOTE ] Im a donkey! |
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Re: Help settle a debate: this guy\'s bluff good or bad?
I think the important facotr is how he thinks you percieve him. If you percieve him as ok but standard crappy live player then his bluff is better because you could be vbing two pair and planning on folding to a shove since most live players cant turn made hands into bluffs. If he thinks yhou think hes good then it just sucks.
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man, i think this is terrible bluff by him what the HELL Are you ever betting on the river that you check the turn with that does not start with st and end right raight? [/ QUOTE ] y is this always a straight? just wondering |
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[ QUOTE ] man, i think this is terrible bluff by him what the HELL Are you ever betting on the river that you check the turn with that does not start with st and end right raight? [/ QUOTE ] y is this always a straight? just wondering [/ QUOTE ] it isn't |
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[ QUOTE ] man, i think this is terrible bluff by him what the HELL Are you ever betting on the river that you check the turn with that does not start with st and end right raight? [/ QUOTE ] y is this always a straight? just wondering [/ QUOTE ] almost all of fwf's other made hands bet the turn the majority of the time, polarizing his range to a bluff straight majority, although im' sure there are some two pair he can have or something strong even that checks the turn for whatever reason, but he surely didn't give enough info on that in his OP- for that reason, he likely rarely shows up with one pair hands in this situation that are bet-folding (since one pair hands make up almost all of his bet-fold range, some two pair also i guess, but all pretty hypothetical) for that reason, i've got fold > call > shove for villian, and i'm usually liking a shove more than a call in hands similar to this- just not this one. |
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Re: Help settle a debate: this guy\'s bluff good or bad?
bad bluff.
I'm callin this with anything that beats TT for sure. |
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bad bluff. I'm callin this with anything that beats TT for sure. [/ QUOTE ] this is retarded and results oriented. |
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