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shpanko · #1 10-23-2007, 05:37 AM

Villain is 22/17/2.8, I have a 20/15/4 image. We haven't tangled a bit, I don't think I've been caught bluffing in any big places so far. I think his hand is fairly face up by the river, hence my bet. Likes? He seems like a fairly standard tag, maybe one of us.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $167.20
Hero (BTN): $204
SB: $213.80
BB: $378.25
UTG: $179.70
MP: $208.85

Pre-Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, Hero raises to $7, SB folds, BB raises to $24, Hero calls $17

Flop: ($49) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($49) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $34, BB calls $34

River: ($117) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $77

Upgrade_U · #2 10-23-2007, 05:40 AM

It's obv you have to bet the turn but I just check behind the riv, he's calling with any ace ( AJ is the probably the weakest ace he's 3betting you with ) and even KQhh or w/e weird hand he could have.

K䲰䮥n · #3 10-23-2007, 05:53 AM

is folding to his 3b a leak?

shpanko · #4 10-23-2007, 05:57 AM

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It's obv you have to bet the turn but I just check behind the riv, he's calling with any ace ( AJ is the probably the weakest ace he's 3betting you with ) and even KQhh or w/e weird hand he could have.

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My thinking was he'd bet the turn most of the time with an ace after I check behind on the flop, also isn't AJ having a hard time calling this river?

TheGreenMile · #5 10-23-2007, 05:57 AM

i am assuming you think he has like 99/JJ? obviously a good bet if thats the case but hes not folding any ace in his range very often. Also, i think potting river gets more respect here

shpanko · #6 10-23-2007, 05:57 AM

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is folding to his 3b a leak?

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No it's not, he'd been 3-betting a decent amount though (not me in particular just at the table), and I have position and am in good shape against his range imo.

cs3 · #7 10-23-2007, 06:00 AM

looks good to me. he has KK or JJ and hes always folding JJ 100% of the time. i think he folds KK at least 1/2 of the time here. your hand looks like AK/AQ/QQ

Fonkey123 · #8 10-23-2007, 06:02 AM

He's not folding, cuz once you check "zomg I induced a bluff i call now"

Keyser. · #9 10-23-2007, 06:03 AM

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is folding to his 3b a leak?

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If you call 3-bets in this spot you'll need to occasionally do what shpanko is doing here to make it +EV.

I think you should be betting way more on the river. I know you're trying to make it look like a valuebet, but so many times straight-forward villains are just looking at calling $77 into a $117 instead of really evaluating your range. He's checking to induce here so make him induce something he's not willing to call.

shpanko · #10 10-23-2007, 06:03 AM

yeah that was basically my thinking cs3, anybody disagree?