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Re: 200nl - pretty standard hand. combo draw in 3-bet pot
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call the flop and then depending on how much he bets or if he bets the turn i would shove/pot the turn. [/ QUOTE ] i don't like this. to me, if he bets the flop AND turn, his hand is pretty strong and he's probably cool w/getting all the money in. if I wait for the turn to raise, i end up putting in most of my stack as a pretty decent dog. |
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Re: 200nl - pretty standard hand. combo draw in 3-bet pot
raisy daisy
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Re: 200nl - pretty standard hand. combo draw in 3-bet pot
i raise this 99% of the time
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Re: 200nl - pretty standard hand. combo draw in 3-bet pot
Why are we raising? What do we put him on? Certainly there is nothing terribly wrong about raising and it's def +EV, but I have a feeling calling might be more +EV against a lot of opponents.
Like I said earlier, the range we raise and get it in vs we are a dog to. So we are not really raising for value hoping for a call. Raising folds out midpairs and stuff like that, but I think we can get those to fold on the turn/river equally cheap. So I'm not sure why we should raise here 99% of the time. I guess it feels a bit yuck when we just call and he bets big on a blank turn and we have to fold, but almost no one thats not completely spewtarded will do that with anything less than AK. |
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Re: 200nl - pretty standard hand. combo draw in 3-bet pot
this is one of those spots where i much prefer a PF flat-call as compared toa 3-bet.
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Re: 200nl - pretty standard hand. combo draw in 3-bet pot
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You honestly can't really go wrong either way in this hand. I tend to call here more than many, but given that you don't have any history, I'd raise it up here. I tend to think people aren't that strong when they first make this play, and it's some really cheap metagame. [/ QUOTE ] Depends a whole bunch on stack sizes, reads, history. In this particular spot I like a call based on all of these, and because my draws aren't all that obvious so my implied odds are very good when I hit, and I can just get away if I whiff and he keeps betting. Plus I think we have 15 outs here exactly never. |
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