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Hand reading exercise
I have noticed that many are making 'deep analysis'. By that I mean putting villain on a range and then calculate EV for different lines. This is very good but I think there is one part of hand reading many are missing. Try to put these players on ranges in these hands I played last night.
Good luck! <font color="purple"> Hand 1 </font> UTG is 28.6/7.1/0.4 after 14 hands SB is 47.4/5.3/2.4 after 19 hands PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is MP1 with XX. <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls. Flop: (10 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, UTG calls. Turn: (6.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero calls, SB calls. River: (12.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero folds, SB calls. Final Pot: 16.50 BB <font color="purple"> ******************* </font> <font color="purple"> Hand 2 </font> UTG is 48.1/11.1/0.6 after 25 hands SB is 52.9/5.9/1.2 after 34 hands PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, SB completes, BB checks. Flop: (3 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls. Turn: (3 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls. River: (9 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, SB calls. Final Pot: 17 BB <font color="purple"> ******************* </font> <font color="purple"> Hand 3 </font> MP1 is 57.1/14.3/.3 after 7 hands BB is 57.1/0/1 after 7 hands PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is Button with XX. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls. Flop: (8.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls $0.50 (All-In). Turn: (10.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players, 1 all-in)</font> BB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, MP1 calls. River: (13.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players, 1 all-in)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP1 calls, Hero calls. Final Pot: 16.25 BB Copy/paste My anwers Hand 1 Hero holds {} UTG holds {} SB holds {} Hand 2 SB holds{} UTGholds {} Hand 3 BB holds{} MP1 holds {} Hero holds{} |
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Re: Hand reading exercise
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<font color="purple"> Hand 1 </font> UTG is 28.6/7.1/0.4 after 14 hands SB is 47.4/5.3/2.4 after 19 hands [/ QUOTE ] Relatively useless stats, so I'll just assume UTG is basically sane/passive and SB is LP preflop and randomly aggressive postflop. [ QUOTE ] PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is MP1 with XX. <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls. Flop: (10 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, UTG calls. Turn: (6.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero calls, SB calls. River: (12.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero folds, SB calls. Final Pot: 16.50 BB [/ QUOTE ] Hand 1 Hero holds {AJs, KJs, A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], can sushi fold an overpair on the river for two bets? Maybe also QQ} UTG holds {QQ-JJ with an outside chance of AA-KK and 77} SB holds {Who knows... maybe some silly hand like QJ, 76s, I don't see many hands that contain a 2 that would get that far} |
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Re: Hand reading exercise
Wanna show me the 30 hands before this? Then I can Daniel it.
Hand 1 you have pocket 10's, UTG holds AJ, SB is stupid even if he wins Hand 2 who cares they both have full house likely and they are both stupid. Hand 3 hero has two pair, mp1 has flush straight draw probably AJ diamonds and makes a stupid call on the river or misplayed AKo earlier, BB spikes runner runner with Qx of spades. |
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Re: Hand reading exercise
Hand 1
Hero holds {99-1010} UTG holds {66-77 or JJ} SB holds {22 32 or 72} Hand 2 SB holds{any 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]} hopefully 57 or 710 also could be 98-9Qs UTG holds {97-92} Hand 3 BB holds{Kx [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]} MP1 holds {99-JJ} Hero holds{KJs} So these were my guesses, I don't think any are even close but I took a shot. |
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Re: Hand reading exercise
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Hand 1 Hero holds {AJs, KJs, A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], can sushi fold an overpair on the river for two bets? Maybe also QQ} [/ QUOTE ] Crap... missed the pocket pair with gutshot for sushi. Edit: Wait.. ummmm... there's no gutshot and I'm a moran for glancing quickly at the other responses without referring back to the OP. |
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Re: Hand reading exercise
I assume hero is a good solid player (you?)
Hand1: Hero has TT or AQh/AKh, since he bets again on the turn. Hand3: KQd makes most sense to me, why not cap flop. I don't think hero would cc KJd pf. He might cc ATd/AJd, but i don't see him calling A high on the river. |
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Re: Hand reading exercise
what's up with everyone who thinks hero should call a turn c/r with TT (or 99) in hand 1. xhad postulate ftw.
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Re: Hand reading exercise
After reading the responses in hand 1 it looks like AK or AQ [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. For hero, that would be a better hand to b/c with than 99 or 10. Still, hero could call a raise with 99 or 1010 on the turn because thats how I would have played it.
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More, more
Give ranges not single hands. If the correct hand is in the range u stated you get points. The narrower the range the more points. But if the correct hand is not in the range at all u score zero. Very clear rules, now Gogogoggogogo!
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Re: Hand reading exercise
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<font color="purple"> Hand 1 </font> UTG is 28.6/7.1/0.4 after 14 hands SB is 47.4/5.3/2.4 after 19 hands PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is MP1 with XX. <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls. Flop: (10 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, UTG calls. Turn: (6.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero calls, SB calls. River: (12.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero folds, SB calls. Final Pot: 16.50 BB <font color="purple"> ******************* </font> [/ QUOTE ] Hand 1 Hero holds {aa-qq, ahjh } UTG holds {jj, 66/77 (pf thin)} SB holds {unclear} [ QUOTE ] <font color="purple"> Hand 2 </font> UTG is 48.1/11.1/0.6 after 25 hands SB is 52.9/5.9/1.2 after 34 hands PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, SB completes, BB checks. Flop: (3 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls. Turn: (3 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls. River: (9 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, SB calls. Final Pot: 17 BB <font color="purple"> ******************* </font> [/ QUOTE ] Hand 2 SB holds {9x) UTG holds {96/98/88/Tc7c} [ QUOTE ] <font color="purple"> Hand 3 </font> MP1 is 57.1/14.3/.3 after 7 hands BB is 57.1/0/1 after 7 hands PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is Button with XX. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls. Flop: (8.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls $0.50 (All-In). Turn: (10.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players, 1 all-in)</font> BB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, MP1 calls. River: (13.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players, 1 all-in)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP1 calls, Hero calls. Final Pot: 16.25 BB [/ QUOTE ] Hand 3 BB holds {ksxs, maybe K4} MP1 holds {makes no sense} Hero holds {KJs, KTs, maybe 88} |
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