A visual representation of FGators dollars (serious theory post)

[josh_x]

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i think a whole bunch of 2p2ers have exact same stats as "perfect" player but their green bars are about a third as tall.

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What stat(s) measure green-bar-ness of a player?

[Clayton]

red is how often you put yourself in spots fgators never would have considered (taking varying lines with varying hands essentially, as i explain it)

green is how much you make from those situations. someone who is a barely losing bad TAG probably puts himself in many of the same spots a great tag does, but butchers numerous situations from a game theory / handreading perspective.

aba has probably close to the same preflop stats as myself, and mixes it up postflop with a similar frequency depending on the game, but there's no question he makes significantly more per hour if he were to take over for me just because he makes far less mistakes. think of it that way.

[0evg0]

or think of it this way

preflop is by far the easiest street to play in poker

just because you've mastered that (which like 10 current 200nl-400nl regs on Stars have) doesn't mean you're going to even be a winning player. let alone a player that makes more than $30/hr at 200nl

[derosnec]

aba doesn't really mix it up postflop. i've watched all his vids and, sadly, took notes on all his plays (this what you do when you have no GF). he doesn't cbet bad flops OOP and value bets his good hands and double barrels, etc. when villain likely can't stand the heat. but i didn't really see any mixing it up. seemed very straightforward, with a lot of folding to aggression (including pre) with marginal hands.

edit: btw, great post OP

[Speedlimits]

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aba doesn't really mix it up postflop. i've watched all his vids and, sadly, took notes on all his plays (this what you do when you have no GF). he doesn't cbet bad flops OOP and value bets his good hands and double barrels, etc. when villain likely can't stand the heat. but i didn't really see any mixing it up. seemed very straightforward, with a lot of folding to aggression (including pre) with marginal hands.

edit: btw, great post OP

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i hope this is a level

[derosnec]

nope

[NoahSD]

I assume clayton doesn't mean "mixes it up" as in does one thing 20% of the time in the exact same spot and one thing the other 80% of the time.

He means playing enough hands similarly enough that you're reasonably hard to play against, and using all the reasonable lines that are available to you.

[blah-blah-blah]

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aba doesn't really mix it up postflop. i've watched all his vids and, sadly, took notes on all his plays (this what you do when you have no GF). he doesn't cbet bad flops OOP and value bets his good hands and double barrels, etc. when villain likely can't stand the heat. but i didn't really see any mixing it up. seemed very straightforward, with a lot of folding to aggression (including pre) with marginal hands.

edit: btw, great post OP

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so instead u should mix it up by always c-betting bad flops oop, not value bet your good hands from time to time and double barrel even when its obvious its not going to work. o and obviously play more marginal hands pre flop w/o initiative to make things harder on ur self post flop. this is brilliant.

[derosnec]

you're reading my post wrong (or i didn't write it coherently):

i meant to say his postflop is standard ABC. he knows what kind of flops to cbet, when to shut down, when to fold, etc.

he's not doing some judo thing postflop to screw with you. it's ABC.

[chiTown22]

yep