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Old 10-10-2007, 03:28 PM
WelshChip WelshChip is offline
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Default Re: floppin top 2 deep

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thinking about villain's stats and the fact that sets are less likely be in his range (3 betting queens and jacks pf/not playing so fast), i think its a actually a pretty easy call, sry for flip flopping

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against a range that doesn't count jacks and counts all flush draws >A-xs we are 47%.

I think JJ and QQ can definitely be in his range when 175bb deep, out of position and against an UTG raiser...
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Old 10-10-2007, 03:27 PM
WelshChip WelshChip is offline
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well, I think folding this hand after raising is more retarded than calling the flop, but that's just me.

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u can raise that flop and not always have to call a shove, there r a lot of draws which arent necessarily going to go nuts and shove that deep and giving free cards to 2 ppl on that board is mental

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it's only a free card if they don't bet the turn when they miss... you also let people drawing slim get away from their hands.
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Old 10-10-2007, 03:30 PM
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well, I think folding this hand after raising is more retarded than calling the flop, but that's just me.

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u can raise that flop and not always have to call a shove, there r a lot of draws which arent necessarily going to go nuts and shove that deep and giving free cards to 2 ppl on that board is mental

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it's only a free card if they don't bet the turn when they miss... you also let people drawing slim get away from their hands.

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i dont c how not charging ppl to draw against u on that board is smart, i dont c what u mean "its only a free card" - y would u give it to them? plus the raise makes even more sense from my perspective as im advocating calling a shove.
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