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Im shoving over that 6x UTG raise in hand #2 no doubt.
Hand #1 I'd probably shove too, although I'd consider folding for a few seconds. Edit: I might just stop and go on hand #1, although that sh*t dont work too well anymore. |
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Hand 1: I shove here everytime, unless for some reason this guy has been extremely extremely tight.
Hand 2: Shove Shove Shove |
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1-shove/2-call
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Hand 2, he's told us we're not crushed and he's never getting away from it, jam and smile with glee.
Hand 1 is a better fold argument, but stack says shove. |
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For anyone who thinks that shoving #1 is easier than shoving #2 or that they are both equal, you are wrong. Here is why in no particular order:
#1 is a 22r, #2 is an $11r In #1 we have way more information that says we are behind. Think about what your opponent has seen. He saw an UTG raise and decided he wanted to make a big re-raise anyway. In #2 our villian simply raised UTG. This can be a wide range of hands, much wider than in #1. In #1, pot odds are more in our favor as the pot is larger. In #2, villain made an extra large PF raise. This often indicates a hand that doesn't want to see a flop. AKA, Not KK or AA. So yeah. Folding #1 is way more reasonable than folding #2. Although shoving may be correct in both. |
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#1 - Without a read there's no way i'm folding. Getting 3:2 on your stack you're almost exactly neutral ev if he's AK/QQ+ and there's no way i'm giving an unknown that tight of a range.
#2 - Fistpump shove while quietly laughing at him for such a ridiculous raise with a range that is sooooo heavily weighted to JJ. |
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