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Old 10-04-2007, 06:27 AM
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I really don't get it, why would I trust I'm behind ?
Vilain had a lot of time air or a draw there, and when I'm Vs TP, I still had plenty of out. I'm not there to calldown in a so small pot...
It could even save me money when I get out of this on a turn c/r, and I also could check the river if no raised for a free showdown.
I really don't understand the calldown here, I will raise everytime a middle pair + gutshot Vs those freaking [censored] donk [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 10-04-2007, 06:35 AM
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Vilain had a lot of time air

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If villain has air you dont want to raise and give him a reason to fold. Its much better to let him bluff at the pot.


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or a draw there

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When villain has a draw its best for you to just call if he will fire the river UI. If you raise he will just c/f the river UI.


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and when I'm Vs TP, I still had plenty of out

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Thats true. But you still dont have +50% Eq so you loose money from the extra bets going in.


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I'm not there to calldown in a so small pot...


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When the pot is small you should focus on getting bets in the pot. Whenever you have a marginal hand and you suspect villain is bluffing or semi-bluffing you should not raise. You dont want him to fold those bluffs!


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It could even save me money when I get out of this on a turn c/r,

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That would be really terrible. Dont bloat the pot and then fold on a drawy board. Thats REALLY bad. Also folding the turn here should never ever be an option you consider


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and I also could check the river if no raised for a free showdown.


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That is true. And I think that is the only argument for raising the flop. But thats 1 argumnet vs 100 arguments for calling.


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I really don't understand the calldown here,

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Then, in all respect, you need to work on your game and how you think about it.
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Old 10-04-2007, 07:21 AM
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WHEN DONKS OR UNKNOWNS DONK THE TURN IT IS A DRAW ALMOST ALWAYS. I WILL NEVER FOLD A HAND WITH SD VALUE WHEN PEOPLE TAKE THAT LINE!!

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Disregard. he didnt donk the turn... Turn fold is fine.
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Old 10-04-2007, 07:22 AM
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Default Re: 89O BOUTTON

And you really think he's folding here ? He could easy showdown his ace high.
He can also check raise the turn with air, but then it's up to your read on him.
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