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A preflop movie: KQs, 3 bets, and suicide all-ins
Villain in this hand has been hard to read. I think he's a pf lag (raising stuff like KTo), but I'm yet to see him 3-bet anything preflop (in about an hour). After the flop he seems...well, unpredictable.
Hero raises UTG+1 with KQs. Folds to Villain in LP (CO I think), who makes it three bets. BB suicide all-ins for 4 bets. Hero ???. Cap is 5 bets at this fine establishment. Edit: This is my standard 6/12 live game. |
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Re: A preflop movie: KQs, 3 bets, and suicide all-ins
Er, my first instinct is to cap it, but we're OOP and we haven't seen him threebang yet. Just call, c/r a favorable flop and go from there.
Is this Canterbury? |
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Re: A preflop movie: KQs, 3 bets, and suicide all-ins
No, it's artichoke joe's in the bay area.
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Re: A preflop movie: KQs, 3 bets, and suicide all-ins
I wouldn’t cap in this circumstance. KQs is not a strong enough hand. I just call without a better read on the villains 3 betting range, but I’m sort of a nit.
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Re: A preflop movie: KQs, 3 bets, and suicide all-ins
no dont cap.
other guy isnt folding and you cant make more off of an all-in. |
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Re: A preflop movie: KQs, 3 bets, and suicide all-ins
I never really considered capping. I actually almost folded the hand. Does this make me nit of the day?
In actuality I called and the 3-better capped it. So now I'm OOP with K-high for 5 bets, with a suicide all in who likely has either an ace or a small pair there for 80% of the pot. All in all, a terrible situation. But was calling still the right move? |
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Re: A preflop movie: KQs, 3 bets, and suicide all-ins
Calling is the right move. KQs is a pretty strong hand. If you wiff on the flop you can fold. If you catch a pair or a draw then play poker. Also - suicide all ins don't need to have good cards or even ace high. A lot of players will do this with any pair and even small suited connectors.
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Re: A preflop movie: KQs, 3 bets, and suicide all-ins
Call for sure. With one person all-in you don't have to worry about getting caught in the middle if you hit a flop that's worth peeling a card off on. That control on how much drawing or calling down will cost you is an oft neglected but critical consideration here.
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Re: A preflop movie: KQs, 3 bets, and suicide all-ins
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No, it's artichoke joe's in the bay area. [/ QUOTE ] Is the cap 5bets in most bay area rooms? |
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Re: A preflop movie: KQs, 3 bets, and suicide all-ins
no the cap depends on the location, either 4 or 5 bets depending.
Jesse- I wouldn't cap this either unless this was a maniac that you'd seen 3-bet trash in the past. I would call and evaluate the flop. |
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