***Official "What the hell am I doing here" HORSE thread***

[Yuv]

[ QUOTE ]
tj_trail: LOL
tj_trail: outplayed?
tj_trail: do you know who I am?

p10ker: do you think i care?

tj_trail: I've been around these places a lot longer than you son

p10ker: not online you havent, old man


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http://www.pocketfives.com/profiles/RainmanTrail

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Age 27

Sites this user plays on
AbsolutePoker RainmanTrail
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Favorite cash game
NL/PL HE, $1/$2 to $2/$4

Greatest online win
FullTiltPoker $6500 HORSE"

No disrespect to 1-2/2-4 players, but is it worthy of "do you know who I am"?

[LearnedfromTV]

They seriously need to do something about the limit structures next year.

There are currently 18 people left playing 4k/8k omaha, practially the entire prize pool is on the table, and they have an average of 11 big bets.

The next three levels are 6k/12k, 8k/16k and 10k/20k. That's a 50% increase, a 33% increase, and a 25% increase. These are also the stud games, which have an additional betting round,

Going from 4k/8k omaha 8 to 6k/12k razz at this point in the tournament is truly retarded, especially because razz is so high variance, and because it's a game where equities don't really diverge until 5th street. Half the field will be committed before the key point in the hand for evaluating their equity.

edit: razz round just started with two full tables left, average stack is 8BB. They're flipping coins for the final table. Just getting the bringin more than average could be enough to signficantly hurt someone.

[JoeDimaggio]

yeah your absolutely right The whole time I was watching the this I just kept thining, man if I was playing in this I would be playing so tight in the razz rounds to reduce variance and save my chips for another game. Everybody is basically getting their money in as a pure coinflip on 3rd due to the poor end structure.

[betgo]

Loose calldown:

PokerStars Game #12350060785: Tournament #70000021, $5000+$200 HORSE (Razz Limit) - Level XVIII (6000/12000) - 2007/09/30 - 00:50:32 (ET)
Table '70000021 18' 8-max
Seat 1: tj_trail (172238 in chips)
Seat 3: BUS02 (188456 in chips)
Seat 4: TwinkleStar (109443 in chips)
Seat 6: svesken (317331 in chips)
Seat 7: ROXY24 (143989 in chips)
Seat 8: Cordelia (211244 in chips)
svesken: posts the ante 1200
ROXY24: posts the ante 1200
Cordelia: posts the ante 1200
tj_trail: posts the ante 1200
BUS02: posts the ante 1200
TwinkleStar: posts the ante 1200
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to tj_trail [Kc]
Dealt to BUS02 [Ks]
Dealt to TwinkleStar [3s]
Dealt to svesken [3h]
Dealt to ROXY24 [3c]
Dealt to Cordelia [Kh]
BUS02: brings in for 1800
TwinkleStar: folds
svesken: raises 4200 to 6000
ROXY24: calls 6000
Cordelia: folds
tj_trail: folds
BUS02: folds
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to svesken [3h] [Tc]
Dealt to ROXY24 [3c] [Qh]
svesken: bets 6000
ROXY24: calls 6000
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to svesken [3h Tc] [Jd]
Dealt to ROXY24 [3c Qh] [Ah]
svesken: checks
ROXY24: bets 12000
svesken: calls 12000
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to svesken [3h Tc Jd] [9c]
Dealt to ROXY24 [3c Qh Ah] [5s]
svesken: checks
ROXY24: bets 12000
svesken: calls 12000
*** RIVER ***
svesken: checks
ROXY24: bets 12000
svesken: calls 12000
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ROXY24: shows [4d 6d 3c Qh Ah 5s Jh] (Lo: 6,5,4,3,A)
svesken: mucks hand
ROXY24 collected 105000 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 105000 | Rake 0
Seat 1: tj_trail folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 3: BUS02 folded on the 3rd Street
Seat 4: TwinkleStar folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 6: svesken mucked
Seat 7: ROXY24 showed [4d 6d 3c Qh Ah 5s Jh] and won (105000) with Lo: 6,5,4,3,A
Seat 8: Cordelia folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)

[SGspecial]

*bump*

I just threw up in my mouth again.

[Silent A]

[ QUOTE ]
yeah your absolutely right The whole time I was watching the this I just kept thining, man if I was playing in this I would be playing so tight in the razz rounds to reduce variance and save my chips for another game. Everybody is basically getting their money in as a pure coinflip on 3rd due to the poor end structure.

[/ QUOTE ]

At a minimum I think they should consider playing each game at each level for 6 minutes. H and O just get the blinds, R, S, and, E add the antes.

As it stands, the play is dominated by whatever game happens to come after a 50% level increase.

[buckslayer80]

Do we know anyone still left?

[Silent A]

Could be a long FT bubble.

No more short stacks left.

[Yuv]

[ QUOTE ]
Do we know anyone still left?

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm a pretty consistent railer and I don't know any of 'em. Kinda weird.

[xPeru]

Railing this has been expensive; I took a break when Andy Macleod bust (bizarre) to play some PLO and promptly lost my entire week's profits. A sick variance game.