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Old 09-28-2007, 05:12 PM
mwalsh2020 mwalsh2020 is offline
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Default 22 1R+1A Top Two but the flush got there

Villain is unknown. No reads. My friend played this hand but doesn't really ever go on 2p2 so I figured I would at least try to learn something from the hand. How often is this ever a lower two pair? Can this ever be a bluff? Comments on flop/turn play also appreciated.

*** HOLE CARDS *** Hicksd has AJo
mario lira: folds
Jogarcia: folds
Hicksd: raises 150 to 250
russ3074: folds
Gui78: folds
wolf22222: folds
camata is connected
JJ3man: calls 200
LaJune: folds
*** FLOP *** [Ac 5h 2c]
JJ3man: checks
Hicksd: checks
*** TURN *** [Ac 5h 2c] [Jc]
JJ3man: bets 300
Hicksd: raises 400 to 700
JJ3man: raises 600 to 1300
Hicksd: calls 600
*** RIVER *** [Ac 5h 2c Jc] [7h]
JJ3man: bets 1500
Hicksd: ???
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Old 09-28-2007, 08:19 PM
BriPlay BriPlay is offline
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Default Re: 22 1R+1A Top Two but the flush got there

ok i'll take a shot at this.. all comments on my comments welcomed
1. PF 150 is an odd amount over a 100BB (presumable just bet the pot). Raising AJo is kinda dicey from this early a pos, but if you do the raise needs to be at least 250-300 IMHO- pot is now 600?
2. flop. you HAVE to bet out here in my opinion. you cant let the flush draw for free, and you'd like to know if your AJ is good.
3. turn- now you cbet? or is this for value? or a bluff?
regardless when you are raised here i think you have to really consider a fold. the other telltale here is that its a minraise- the clasic donk 'i don't want to lose any customers' way of raising with a big hand.
ok maybe you are distracted adn call; but reraising is spewage here imho
4. River. you beat an overplayed AK/AQ (ace with K of clubs?) and that's about it. pot is a little over 3k; not sure how many chips you have here..i'd probably fold unless i could easily afford the call.
im going to guess that since he didn't push the turn he had a small to mid flush and only bet heavy after seeing a blank on the river. second guess is JJ with J spades

thanks for the post

brian
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Old 09-28-2007, 08:34 PM
JARID JARID is offline
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Default Re: 22 1R+1A Top Two but the flush got there

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ever a lower two pair? Can this ever be a bluff?

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Yes and sure.

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Comments on flop/turn play also appreciated.

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Your friend needs to bet the flop. Its somewhat coordinated so its not really a "way ahead way behind" situation. Therefore you dont need to slowplay.
Plus worse A will pay you off all day long.

Further, your friend's logic on the turn is inconsistent. Presumably he checked behind on the flop to induce a bluff on the turn. So now villian is bluffing, why do you raise? So he folds his bluff?

If he is trying to extract value out of a worse A he should have done that by betting the flop.

So I would have; bet flop, bet turn..

As played...

Call turn, call/bet river. (maybe raise river small depending on turn/river action, but it depends.)

Jarid
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