Pm received by a few of us. Not sure what to think.

[iron81]

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With subtlety, you can make your point without splashing around in the gutter.

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For example, the Nielsio lolcats thread in ATF now is really funny.

[ahnuld]

I just continue to post mostly the same as if I was a regular poster, with a few insults leveled down. Dont see why we should be held to a much higher standard for a volunteer job.

[JaredL]

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Dont see why we should be held to a much higher standard for a volunteer job.

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I don't really see how us volunteering is relevant. We're volunteering to do the job asked of us by the admins.

If I volunteer at a local elementary school reading to the kids, I'm not going to say "but I'm a volunteer!" when they get mad at me for swearing.

In a more relevant example, if I were a volunteer firefighter in a small town, they would probably remove me from my position if I behaved inappropriately even if it had nothing to do with fighting fires. So I would be held to a higher standard than the average citizen while I was a volunteer.

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I just continue to post mostly the same as if I was a regular poster, with a few insults leveled down. Dont see why we should be held to a much higher standard for a volunteer job.

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I concur, but at the same time I wouldn't mind being asked to be held to a higher standard. 2+2 is huge now, its not the personal forum it was years ago when we started here (and even then it was considered huge compared to the real early days), so many of the users are confused by the role of a moderator, they view us as employees and as representatives of 2+2.

There is an old saying, if you cant beat them, join them. Why are we trying to make the majority conform to our view?

[tuq]

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I remember in the past much more unbiased and respectful moderation by people like andyfox, compared to the juvenile insults of a tuq, jman220, NT!, stabn, and the like.

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cabn isn't a mod and hasn't been for awhile. In fact, since probably before this poster re-registered under this account. I mean, I know everyone here knows that but have no clue how he missed it.

Also, I'm pretty sure I've never addressed this particular poster. Reason being is that from my limited sample size he is loony tunes, thus I have nothing positive to say to him and really don't care to get into some Politics-esque debate with him. The bottom line is, I hardly think he is representative of the average 2+2 poster or lurker. I also now get why you made the ATF sticky and why Ryan Beal made that clique post earlier. Knowing where it came from makes both things less meaningful IMO.

[Mat Sklansky]

I hope that our concerns are fairly meaningless.
My sticky will remain regardless, both as a gesture of good will,and as a measurement tool.

Nobody has sent me a message yet. And I suspect and hope that the sticky is pointless from a practical standpoint.

[ahnuld]

Im saying as non paid representatives I dont see why users should feel that we represent the views of the site by any means outside forums we moderate. Therefor outside out forums we should be the same as any other poster, and refrain from doing things like breaking the profanity filter that would get a normal user banned, but not us (cause we cant LDO), but open to respond to and insult other posters if we so want.

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I hope that our concerns are fairly meaningless.
My sticky will remain regardless, both as a gesture of good will,and as a measurement tool.

Nobody has sent me a message yet. And I suspect and hope that the sticky is pointless from a practical standpoint.

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I sent you a message [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

I deleted my "ban Mat" post, it was in poor taste considering the timing; not funny. Sorry about that.

[Mat Sklansky]

i thought it was funny

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i thought it was funny

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Mt Charlston had snow. Sick! Snow in Las Vegas, and its only September!