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Old 09-21-2007, 10:12 AM
earlytimes1 earlytimes1 is offline
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Default Re: Flopped Boat Hand

I just keep jamming on flop & hope he has a T.
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Old 09-21-2007, 10:19 AM
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I just keep jamming on flop & hope he has a flush draw.

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standard. nh. Only part worth discussion would be the preflop raise imo.
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Old 09-21-2007, 10:59 AM
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call pre flop, call flop, raise turn
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Old 09-21-2007, 11:13 AM
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* grunch *

If there were any other players trapped in the hand then I'd continue to go hard on the flop and win extra bets there but it's already heads up. If I was out of position I would also continue to go hard because I'd hate the turn to check thru. But since it's heads up and you're in position with a monster hand, I think this is the perfect time to only call the flop check/raise and go for the raise on the turn.

I had a similar hand recently. I raised AA on the button and the flop came AT8rainbow. The SB led, BB called, I raised, SB 3bet and BB folded (getting it heads up). SB was not the type to play a draw hard so I knew he already had a hand he was happy with. Unfortunately, I stupidly capped the flop; I could have earned an extra SB had I just called his 3bet and raised the turn, but my flop cap prevented him from leading again.

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Old 09-21-2007, 11:43 AM
gobbledygeek gobbledygeek is offline
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Looks like I've been outvoted here, but I don't see what's so bad about the call flop / raise turn line here in position in a heads up pot.

What low limit live player is checkraising this flop and then not leading turn if not 3bet? As well, even if villain has a T (which I'm guessing he does), I think there are a lot of turn cards that could slow him down if we 3bet this flop (any spade, any card > T, OMG, you have a flush or a big full house); if any of these scare cards come if only calling the flop then I think it is less likely villain will be scared to lead. I've seen little old ladies with the nuts call down once 3bet on the flop.

There's also the possibility that a villain with a T might 3bet us on the turn if a low card comes, simply not believing that we have anything since we just called the flop.

I hardly ever slowplay but isn't this the perfect opportunity to do so?
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Old 09-21-2007, 11:45 AM
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Pot is big, slowplay over. Get the money in while ahead.
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Old 09-21-2007, 11:47 AM
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You are correct, the one thing I did not take into consideration was the size of the pot; it is large, probably not the time to goof around...
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Old 09-21-2007, 11:30 AM
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call flop, raise turn

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Yuk, no. Please stop doing this if you like money. One of the largest mistakes I see online are slowplays.

(The donk way of playing a set: donk has 77, villain holds KJs. Donk limps, Villain raises, Donk calls. Flop is A7Tr, donk checks, villain bets, donk calls. Turn is the 3r, donk check, villain checks. River is the Q, donk bets, villain raises, donk 3-bets, villain caps, donk calls and complains about the horrible suck outs.)
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Old 09-21-2007, 11:35 AM
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Yuk, no. Please stop doing this if you like money. One of the largest mistakes I see online are slowplays.

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that doesnt make sense to me
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Old 09-21-2007, 11:37 AM
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your going to make more money against his trips, hes def going to bet into you on the turn with a call on the flop. whats the problem. make at least 1 sb
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