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Old 09-20-2007, 11:32 PM
xcrack999 xcrack999 is offline
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Default 5/10. It seems like I\'m always going broke with overpairs lately

I feel like I have to play for stacks with overpairs on drawy boards to protect my bluffs and double barrels with mediocre hands. Obviously, that reasoning isn't working out for me lately, so here's 2 hands.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $5/$10 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $1,087.00
BB: $1,423.70
<u>Hero (UTG): $1,000.00</u>
MP: $1,169.00
<u>CO: $1,299.45</u>
BTN: $1,214.00

Reads: <font color="blue">Villain is 32/12/2. Kind of fishy and takes strange lines.</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $35.00</font>, MP folds, CO calls $35.00, 2 folds, BB calls $25.00

Flop: ($110) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $100.00</font>, CO calls $100.00, BB folds

Turn: ($310) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $250.00</font>, <font color="red">CO raises all-in to $1,164.45</font>

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $5/$10 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

<u>SB: $1,022.00</u>
BB: $1,037.00
<u>Hero (UTG): $1,154.00</u>
MP: $1,118.00
CO: $408.00
BTN: $1,882.50

Reads: <font color="blue">Villain is 25/17/4.</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $35.00</font>, 3 folds, SB calls $30.00, BB folds

Flop: ($80) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $70.00</font>, SB calls $70.00

Turn: ($220) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $178.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $500.00</font>
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Old 09-20-2007, 11:40 PM
tuckercat tuckercat is offline
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Default Re: 5/10. It seems like I\'m always going broke with overpairs lately

unless there is history, or you have a good read, fold to check raises on the turn.
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Old 09-20-2007, 11:44 PM
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Default Re: 5/10. It seems like I\'m always going broke with overpairs lately

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unless there is history, or you have a good read, fold to check raises on the turn.

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Old 09-20-2007, 11:56 PM
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Default Re: 5/10. It seems like I\'m always going broke with overpairs lately

call 1 fold 2
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Old 09-21-2007, 12:01 AM
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Default Re: 5/10. It seems like I\'m always going broke with overpairs lately

those spots are pukish,

I always end up callin..

but i'm a callin station
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Old 09-21-2007, 12:02 AM
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Default Re: 5/10. It seems like I\'m always going broke with overpairs lately

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call 1 fold 2

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Jfish, I assume ur reasoning is that the dude in hand 1 is very fishy. He's got a relatively low AF though. I guess its pretty close and pairs+draws are big enough part of his range though.
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Old 09-21-2007, 12:16 AM
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Default Re: 5/10. It seems like I\'m always going broke with overpairs lately

Hand 1 is pretty close. If you think he can play hands like AcKc,Ac3c,Ac5c,JJ etc. then it's closer to a call. If you're not so sure, I think folding is fine.

Hand 2 is a fold imo cuz villain is probably putting you on a pretty strong range at this point, so it seems like an unlikely spot for a bluff.
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Old 09-21-2007, 12:35 AM
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Hand 1 is pretty close. If you think he can play hands like AcKc,Ac3c,Ac5c,JJ etc. then it's closer to a call. If you're not so sure, I think folding is fine.



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I would think villain would 3-bet AcKc pf. And as for Ac3c/Ac5c I tend to think he would bump it up on the flop (but who knows w/ fishies). I mean it seems strange to me that he would flat-call a draw on the flop and then put the hammer down on the turn ui. Maybe he has something like TcXc, but like I said it seems odd to play a flush draw slow on the flop and then pound (in the face of strength) the turn when the flush doesn't get there.
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Old 09-21-2007, 12:35 AM
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Default Re: 5/10. It seems like I\'m always going broke with overpairs lately

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call 1 fold 2

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Old 09-21-2007, 12:43 AM
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Default Re: 5/10. It seems like I\'m always going broke with overpairs lately

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Hand 1 is pretty close. If you think he can play hands like AcKc,Ac3c,Ac5c,JJ etc. then it's closer to a call. If you're not so sure, I think folding is fine.



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I would think villain would 3-bet AcKc pf. And as for Ac3c/Ac5c I tend to think he would bump it up on the flop (but who knows w/ fishies). I mean it seems strange to me that he would flat-call a draw on the flop and then put the hammer down on the turn ui. Maybe he has something like TcXc, but like I said it seems odd to play a flush draw slow on the flop and then pound (in the face of strength) the turn when the flush doesn't get there.

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I agree it seems strange for those those hands to be in his range, but OP specifically said that villain "takes strange lines".
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